From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sashiko <sashiko-bot@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH slab/for-next-fixes] mm/slab: do not wake up kswapd in __kfree_rcu_sheaf()
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 11:57:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <arVERNhXeU1BX54G@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2db41ce0-a510-4050-a79c-ff1f16640b47@kernel.org>
On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 10:43:01AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 9/22/26 13:56, Harry Yoo (Meta) wrote:
> > Fix this by always avoiding waking up kswapd in __kfree_rcu_sheaf().
> > Note that there are two paths that might wake up kswapd:
> >
> > 1) __kfree_rcu_sheaf()
> > // __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM might wake up kswapd
> > -> alloc_empty_sheaf(GFP_NOWAIT)
> >
> > 2) __kfree_rcu_sheaf()
> > // Let's say __kfree_rcu_sheaf() doesn't pass GFP_NOWAIT
> > -> alloc_empty_sheaf(__GFP_NOWARN)
> > -> kmalloc_flags()
> > -> slab_alloc_node()
> > -> alloc_from_pcs()
> > -> __pcs_replace_empty_main()
> > // Free a sheaf in an allocation path when the sheaf becomes empty
> > // and refilling the sheaf fails
>
> So that's this
>
> /*
> * we must be very low on memory so don't bother
> * with the barn
> */
> sheaf_flush_unused(s, empty);
> free_empty_sheaf(s, empty);
>
> Now I wonder if we should just use the barn then, lol. We either took the
> empty sheaf from there, or there was none, so we don't risk overfilling it
> with free sheaves.
Well when refill_sheaf() fails, it's not guaranteed to be empty.
Might have to put a partial sheaf to full list?
... well, now we have sheaf_partial though :-)
> Well but I guess sheaf_flush_unused() could end up in freeing paths anyway.
> But that's a bulk free which doesn't involve sheaves at least.
What do you mean by "**sheaf_flush_unused()** could end up in freeing path"
but "that's a bulk free which doesn't involve **sheaves**"?
> We could also distinguish which callers of refill_sheaf() can continue with
> a partially refilled sheaf. This one likely can so we'd not have to be
> flushing, ever?
Can we do that without adding too much complexity?
> > -> free_empty_sheaf()
> > -> slab_free()
> > -> free_to_pcs()
> > -> __pcs_replace_full_main()
> > // However free path always assumes it's safe to wake up kswapd
> > -> alloc_empty_sheaf(GFP_NOWAIT)
>
> Would be great to avoid all this from kfree_rcu().
Yeah.
> > Drop __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM in both cases. Note that the kfree_rcu() is
> > not the only user of free_to_pcs() path, but it should be fixed as it
> > can be invoked under pi_lock.
> >
> > Reported-by: Sashiko <sashiko-bot@kernel.org>
> > Closes: https://sashiko.dev/#/message/20260831-b4-kfree_rcu_hotfix-v1-1-4f0fb882638b%40kernel.org
> > Fixes: ec66e0d59952 ("slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations")
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260831143500.x-saxdAs@linutronix.de
>
> Fixed up per your reply.
Ack.
> > Assisted-by: LLM
>
> Changed to (per below)
>
> Assisted-by: LLM # dicovery and verification
Ack.
Didn't know adding # blablah after Assisted-by: was a thing!
> > Signed-off-by: Harry Yoo (Meta) <harry@kernel.org>
> > ---
> > The discovery and verification (w/ a modified kernel) of the bug was
> > assisted by LLMs.
> >
> > More speicifically, the first path was pointed out by Sashiko, and
> > the second path was discovered by LLM while reviewing the commit with
> > review-prompts [1].
> >
> > Harry Yoo reviewed those findings and manually crafted the patch based
> > on that.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/masoncl/review-prompts
> >
> > I believe the right direction to address this issue is to make
> > kfree_nolock() work in any context and replace it with kfree_rcu()
> > in the scheduler. However for now it won't work under pi_lock,
> > and resolving that would be a longer journey.
>
> Indeed.
>
> > Address this issue by dropping __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM, for now.
>
> Applied to mm/slab.git slab/for-next-fixes, thanks!
Thanks!
> But still could discuss a better solution per above.
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-25 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-22 11:56 Harry Yoo (Meta)
2026-09-22 12:04 ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-24 8:43 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-25 10:57 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-09-25 11:53 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
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