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From: "Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Mukesh R <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	jgg@nvidia.com,  jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com,
	kys@microsoft.com, haiyangz@microsoft.com, wei.liu@kernel.org,
	 decui@microsoft.com, tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	bp@alien8.de,  dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, will@kernel.org,  robin.murphy@arm.com,
	arnd@arndb.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 3/3] x86/hyperv: Implement root VM IOMMU kernel only driver
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:13:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arYcFJYOvKf-A6xt@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <329027b5-3110-8362-ccee-080c14ed9b3e@linux.microsoft.com>

On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 05:14:12PM -0700, Mukesh R wrote:
> So, I'm at a bit of loss. I could go back to V0 which did what what you
> suggested above, but it can also leave stale mappings when map hypercall
> succeeds partially and we delete the entire tree node in cleanup (but
> we could add to the tree back whatever succeeded, but that could fail
> also, but then we could unmap whatever was mapped, but that could fail
> also.. see :)...).
> 

The root-problem seems to be that every operation in the step can fail,
inluding the unmap operation. This makes it really hard to maintain a
consistent state. Are there any guarantees Hyper-V gives on the unmap
operation, e.g under which circumstances it can fail? It would really help if
the code could assume that it will never fail, or treat a failure as a hard
error.

If there are no guarantees HV can give, a solution might be to add a
mapping-resize operation to the internal tree (which can not fail) to correctly
update the tree structure on partially successful unmaps.

I still believe that the internal tree structure should be updated before the
HV map operation takes place.

> > > +static int __init hv_iommu_init(void)
> > > +{
> > > +	int rc;
> > > +	struct iommu_device *iommup = &hv_virt_iommu;
> > > +	struct hv_output_get_iommu_capabilities caps;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!hv_is_hyperv_initialized())
> > > +		return -ENODEV;
> > > +
> > > +	rc = hv_iommu_get_caps(&caps);
> > > +	if (rc)
> > > +		return rc;
> > > +
> > 
> > The capabilities returned need more checking. I think at least it needs a check
> > for HV_IOMMU_CAP_PRESENT and that PAGE_SIZE is set in the pgsize_bitmap.
> 
> In general this caps hypercall is not available to root partitions,
> our only agreement is for hyp to provide max_iova_width. But, we check
> HV_DEVICE_DOMAIN_AVAILABLE in hv_iommu_detect() which sorta supersedes
> HV_IOMMU_CAP_PRESENT. As for page size, hyp owns the iommu and can chose
> the page size, meaning it can automatically use larger page size when
> possible. But the hypercall HVCALL_MAP_DEVICE_GPA_PAGES will only take
> 4k pfns as input, hence:
> 
> #define HV_IOMMU_PGSIZES SZ_4K        /* for now, to be enhanced */

Okay, so this deserves a comment in the code to make it clear why there is no
additional checking and what the hyper-v to guest contract for feature
detection is.

> Ok, I can change it back to DMA_BIT_MASK. (I removed after comment
> on V0 that this is not dma address).

An IOVA is a DMA address by definition :)

-Joerg

      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-25  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-24  2:02 [PATCH V1 0/3] Hyper-V: root VM iommu " Mukesh R
2026-09-24  2:02 ` [PATCH V1 1/3] PCI: hv: Export hv_build_devid_type_pci() and change return type Mukesh R
2026-09-24  2:02 ` [PATCH V1 2/3] mshv: Import data structs around device domains from hyperv headers Mukesh R
2026-09-24 17:48   ` Easwar Hariharan
2026-09-24  2:02 ` [PATCH V1 3/3] x86/hyperv: Implement root VM IOMMU kernel only driver Mukesh R
2026-09-24 13:35   ` Jörg Rödel
2026-09-25  0:14     ` Mukesh R
2026-09-25  7:13       ` Jörg Rödel [this message]

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