From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
Bradley Morgan <brads@mainlining.org>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@kernel.org>,
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] Add TAINT_DRIVER_OVERRIDE for usage of driver_override
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2026 10:50:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aromsiCXLfGRRTFC@monoceros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLQ0HUM8AV99.3DNY5MRA2AZSO@kernel.org>
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On Sun, Sep 27, 2026 at 12:03:54PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Sun Sep 27, 2026 at 11:55 AM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > On Sun Sep 27, 2026 at 10:03 AM CEST, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> >> Commit fcbfaffee51a ("driver core: add TAINT_FORCED_BIND for when
> >> userspace manually messes with devices and drivers") introduced a taint
> >> for usage of bind/unbind sysfs files that manually trigger driver probe
> >> and remove respectively.
> >>
> >> For drivers that do their resource management correctly (which is also
> >> needed for module unloading) bind and unbind for matching devices are
> >> not critical operations. The thing that makes bind and unbind unsafe is
> >> that drivers can be forced on devices that originally don't match using
> >> driver_override. The result is that e.g. of_device_get_match_data()
> >> returns NULL despite all .of_match_table entries having a non-NULL
> >> .driver_data member which yields a NULL pointer exception for several
> >> drivers. And given that after setting a driver_override a manual bind is
> >> only one way a driver can be bound to an unexpected device, a separate
> >> taint for such an override is justified.
> >>
> >> Reviewed-by: Bradley Morgan <brads@mainlining.org>
> >> Reviewed-by: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>
> >> Signed-off-by: Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>
> >
> > Suggested-by: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/driver-core/DLIL9H50MALI.3JROXYEEUM3KU@kernel.org/
I came up with the idea on my own, but ok, will add that reference.
> >> diff --git a/drivers/base/bus.c b/drivers/base/bus.c
> >> index c51ad96d4de4..7d5dc016a457 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/base/bus.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/base/bus.c
> >> @@ -513,6 +513,7 @@ static ssize_t driver_override_store(struct device *dev,
> >> {
> >> int ret;
> >>
> >> + add_taint_module(NULL, TAINT_DRIVER_OVERRIDE, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK);
> >> ret = __device_set_driver_override(dev, buf, count);
> >
> > There are buses (such as SPI) which unfortunately have to call
> > __device_set_driver_override() directly.
> >
> > I think it would be better to move the taint into __device_set_driver_override()
> > and properly document the purpose of __device_set_driver_override().
>
> Of course I meant to say to create a new forwarding function for this purpose,
> such that we do not taint for device_set_driver_override().
What is the rationale to exclude device_set_driver_override()?
For the dynamic spi device creation I like it to trigger the taint. For
sound/soc/samsung/i2s.c it looks as if device_set_driver_override() is
just the lazy way to make the created device bind and there is no reason
to stick to normal binding. And why does it call device_attach()?
Shouldn't that trigger automatically after platform_device_add()?
Also in drivers/slimbus/qcom-ngd-ctrl.c the call to
device_set_driver_override() seems redundant.
> Maybe device_store_driver_override() or device_set_driver_override_store()?
>
> > It only exists as SPI and AP are a bit special; both print "\n" when
> > driver_override is not set, whereas all other buses (and thus the driver-core)
> > produce "(null)\n" in this case. I.e. it should never get any new users.
I guess it's API and thus hardly changable, but I like "\n" better, and
if it's only because "(null)" might be a driver name and there is no way
to distinguish the situation after
echo '(null)' > driver_override
from the normal state.
Best regards
Uwe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-28 8:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-27 8:03 [PATCH v2 0/2] " Uwe Kleine-König
2026-09-27 8:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] docs: admin-guide: Handle TAINT_FORCED_BIND when parsing /proc/sys/kernel/tainted Uwe Kleine-König
2026-09-27 16:39 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-09-27 8:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Add TAINT_DRIVER_OVERRIDE for usage of driver_override Uwe Kleine-König
2026-09-27 9:55 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-27 10:03 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-28 8:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2026-09-28 9:17 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-27 16:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-27 17:12 ` Danilo Krummrich
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