From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
Kyle Zeng <kylebot@openai.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/rmap: don't discard lazyfree THPs at PMD level
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 15:29:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <as49h2Zgs2wtkfmJ@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9CC1C4F0-1C73-4AA4-8D1C-28DB024E2221@nvidia.com>
On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 04:37:34PM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2026, at 11:22, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 10:33:34AM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> > }
>
> Yes.
>
> My wording was not precise.
>
> zap_pmd_range() doesn’t take the PTL since it sees pmd_none(), while
> try_to_unmap_one() takes the PTL.
Yeah, this is nasty.
No wonder it took some AI analysis to find this :)
> > That bit isn't special to MREMAP_DONTUNMAP.
>
> Right.
But it is a 'very special' flag for mremap... :)
The # of bugs that thing has produced...
> > That set pmd could also UAF on the PMD page table in theory couldn't it?
>
> No, in __discard_anon_folio_pmd_locked(), the caller holds anon_vma read lock;
> when mremap() or munmap() calls free_pgtables() to get rid of page tables,
> they first call unlink_anon_vmas() and get blocked by the aforementioned read
> lock. set_pmd_at() is called while free_pgtables() is blocked, so no UAF here.
Ah ok thanks. Yeah the rmap lock is held throughout that.
Hey - when I eliminate the rmap lock things are going to be even more fun ;)
>
> >
> > It's all really horrible.
>
> And kills my brain.
Yeah this hurt my head too.
I actually (rare in 2026) only got AI to chime in late in my analysis, and while
it helped confirm/deny some stuff it wasn't even that helpful in avoiding the
head... f..un.
> >>> So unmap_vmas() doesn't correctly populate the mmu_gather struct for the
> >>> range, meaning that the underlying page isn't freed and the refcount,
> >>> mapcount etc. are all left as they were?
> >>
> >> Yes to the underlying page isn’t freed.
> >
> > The refcount and mapcount etc. would be correct? I think the refcount would be
> > such that it permanently leaks and the mapcount would be incorrect or only
> > accidentally correct?
>
> refcount and mapcount would be wrong in the munmap case. Both are correct
> in MREMAP_DONTUNMAP case, since the folio is still mapped in the source VMA
> but its anon_vma says it belongs to dst VMA. When dst VMA is unmapped,
> the anon_vma is freed, but the folio is still mapped and its ->mapping
> points to a freed anon_vma. A rmap code checking folio->mapping is a UAF.
OK I _think_ you can only have a destination that either has the same anon_vma
or is unfaulted (so gets given the source anon_vma) so yeah, the anon_vma is
still right but is pointing at the destination VMA, while still being mapped in
the source one :)))
MREMAP_DONTUNMAP really is the gift that keeps on giving.
> > They seem like they are existing bugs effectively in pmdp_invalidate()? Or stuff
> > that we would want to fix anyway I guess?
>
> SPARC’s thp_pte_count might cause other issues, since its code only considers
> huge pmd splitting. powerpc’s page table check might have an issue.
Such fun... lord.
> >> I can remove the dead code if you think that is better.
> >
> > No, if you plan to reinstate it (soon!) then that's fine, but please
> > explain that you're intentionally doing that in the commit message please!
>
> Sure. I will try to come up with a concise but comprehensive message to cover
> both the issue and why pmdp_invalidate() does not work itself.
Great thanks, I saw the v2 and it all LGTM!
--
Cheers, Lorenzo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-13 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-10 2:08 Zi Yan
2026-10-10 2:14 ` Kyle Zeng
2026-10-10 2:28 ` Lance Yang
2026-10-12 10:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-12 12:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-12 14:33 ` Zi Yan
2026-10-12 14:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-12 15:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-12 15:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-12 20:37 ` Zi Yan
2026-10-13 14:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
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