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From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: "Ousherovitch, Alex" <aousherovitch@rambus.com>
Cc: Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <pjw@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krishnamoorthy, Saravanakrishnan" <skrishnamoorthy@rambus.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Wittenauer, Joel" <Joel.Wittenauer@cryptography.com>,
	"linux-api@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Nguyen, Thi" <thin@rambus.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/19] crypto: cmh - add SHA-2/SHA-3/SHAKE ahash
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2026 19:20:26 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asdSSjBML72-YaGq@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR04MB8406AD1C92438FBCBA2EEED4D7962@SJ0PR04MB8406.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 05:04:25PM +0000, Ousherovitch, Alex wrote:
>
> > Please also elaborate what you mean by opaque checkpoint, does it
> > contain the entire hash state or not?
> 
> It holds everything needed to resume, but not in a portable layout.  The
> SAVE output is a fixed-size hardware container (600 bytes worst case)
> holding the core's internal state, the buffered partial block, the block
> counters, the mode and a CRC.  The state portion varies by algorithm:
> 
>   - SHA-3/SHAKE: the 200-byte Keccak state is stored as two shares (the
>     core is DPA/side-channel protected), so it is not the canonical
>     state.
>   - SHA-2: a single 64-byte register block plus the partial block and
>     byte count, in a hardware-internal layout.
>   - Keyed SHA-3 HMAC state cannot be saved by the hardware at all.

So it sounds like the info is there.  Is it possible to transform
this to the format that we use?

> None of these is the canonical export format the API needs, so the
> fallback/digest-only model above is the right fit and we are not pursuing
> incremental hashing upstream.

That's we have the export and import functions, to transcribe
the hardware hash state into a standard format.

> One process question, if you don't mind: we would like to fold as much as
> possible into v6 rather than spinning several revisions.  Have you had a
> chance to look at the rest of the series, or should we expect further
> comments on the remaining patches?  No rush at all -- it would just help
> us decide whether to post v6 now or hold it until the rest of your
> feedback has landed.

I would appreciate it if you can break the series into smaller
chunks.  Perhaps add the algorithms which are the least problematic
first.

Thanks,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-08  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17 22:59 [PATCH v5 00/19] crypto: cmh - add Rambus CryptoManager Hub driver Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 01/19] dt-bindings: crypto: add Rambus CryptoManager Hub Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-28 18:18   ` Rob Herring
2026-10-03  0:01     ` Ousherovitch, Alex
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 02/19] crypto: cmh - add core platform driver Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 03/19] crypto: cmh - add key provisioning and management Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 04/19] crypto: cmh - add SHA-2/SHA-3/SHAKE ahash Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-23  5:47   ` Herbert Xu
2026-09-23 20:50     ` Ousherovitch, Alex
2026-09-28  5:17       ` Herbert Xu
2026-10-05 17:04         ` Ousherovitch, Alex
2026-10-05 22:31           ` Ousherovitch, Alex
2026-10-08  8:20           ` Herbert Xu [this message]
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 05/19] crypto: cmh - add HMAC ahash Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 06/19] crypto: cmh - add CSHAKE/KMAC ahash Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 07/19] crypto: cmh - add SM3 ahash Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 08/19] crypto: cmh - add AES skcipher/aead/cmac Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 09/19] crypto: cmh - add SM4 skcipher/aead/cmac/xcbc Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 10/19] crypto: cmh - add ChaCha20-Poly1305 Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 11/19] crypto: cmh - add DRBG hwrng Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 12/19] crypto: cmh - add RSA akcipher Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 13/19] crypto: cmh - add ECDSA/SM2 sig Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 14/19] crypto: cmh - add ECDH/X25519 kpp Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 15/19] crypto: cmh - add ML-KEM/ML-DSA (QSE) Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 16/19] crypto: cmh - add SLH-DSA/LMS/XMSS (HCQ) Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 17/19] Documentation: ioctl: add CMH ioctl documentation and register 'J' Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 18/19] selftests: crypto: cmh - add kselftest for management ioctl Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-17 22:59 ` [PATCH v5 19/19] MAINTAINERS: add Rambus CryptoManager Hub (CMH) Alex Ousherovitch
2026-09-23  5:48 ` [PATCH v5 00/19] crypto: cmh - add Rambus CryptoManager Hub driver Herbert Xu
2026-09-23 17:42   ` Ousherovitch, Alex

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