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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Nguyen Ngoc Thang <ngocthang2710.1999@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	syzbot+8324b8fd984b86905a66@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: mark racy data block id accesses in the ringbuffer
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 14:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aszSn4stj7ydLJNk@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a4oj9r1s.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Mon 2026-10-12 12:06:47, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2026-10-11, Nguyen Ngoc Thang <ngocthang2710.1999@gmail.com> wrote:
> > data_alloc() stores the descriptor ID into a newly reserved data block
> > while data_make_reusable(), running from data_push_tail() on another CPU,
> > may still be loading the ID from the same area. The code relies on this
> > race being harmless: a stale or garbage ID simply fails the descriptor
> > lookup or the blk_lpos check. But the accesses are plain, so KCSAN
> > reports them, and the compiler is free to tear or refetch the ID.
> >
> > Use READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() for every access to the block ID that can
> > overlap with the lockless reader. No functional change intended.
> 
> READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() could cause minor side-effects as it prohibits
> optimizations that do not need to be prohibited. These would not cause a
> problem, but they are unnecessary. The data race is allowed.
> 
> How about using data_race() instead?
> 
> 	id = data_race(blk->id);
> 
> 	data_race(blk->id = id);

I prefer data_race() because it makes it clear that the race is
expected. Using READ_ONCE()/READ_ONCE() would create false expectations
that they are needed to prevent some races.

Best Regards,
Petr

      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-12 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-11  9:17 Nguyen Ngoc Thang
2026-10-12 10:00 ` John Ogness
2026-10-12 12:29   ` Petr Mladek [this message]

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