From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/6] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 21:32:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <at-q5WanCcf_DFb5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <at9j8iDp2ozx9y5z@fedora>
On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 08:00:10PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> Hi Jarkko,
> Thank you for the review.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2026 at 11:00:42PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2026 at 10:59:09PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 01:48:57AM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > > > From: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > The size of the command is checked against TPM_BUFSIZE early on before
> > > > even sending it to the backend. We therefore need to increase the
> > > > TPM_BUFSIZE to allow support for larger commands.
> > > >
> > > > For now, 8KB seems sufficient for ML-KEM and ML-DSA algorithms and it is
> > > > also order-1 safe.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > In what timeline? Or is it out of spectrum timeline?
> >
> > "For now" part concerns me and I'm not educated enough on topic to
> > know better.
> >
>
> TPM_BUFSIZE needs to hold the largest command the stack will ever
> build. TPM 2.0 Library Part 3: Commands, v185, adds ML-DSA key
> objects and the ML-KEM TPM2_Encapsulate()/TPM2_Decapsulate() commands
> (sections 14.10, 14.11) [1].
>
> NIST FIPS 204, Table 2, gives the sizes for each ML-DSA parameter
> set; the largest, ML-DSA-87, has a 4896-byte private key and a
> 2592-byte public key [2]. Loading an ML-DSA-87 key pair carries both
> (4896 + 2592 bytes); add the command header, a handle and a session,
> and this comes to roughly 7.7KB. 8192 covers that with headroom and
> keeps the kzalloc(TPM_BUFSIZE, ...) calls in the TPM stack at an
> order-1 page allocation - something I figured after sashiko review.
>
> This is sized to the largest parameter set defined today, not a
> timeline, and there's no guarantee it stays sufficient. For example,
> FIPS 205 (SLH-DSA), Table 2, already defines a 49856-byte signature for
> SLH-DSA-SHA2-256f -- six times the current buffer. If a future
> algorithm or parameter set needs more than 8192 bytes, this will need
> revisiting again [3].
>
> I will add this detail in the commit message.
Thanks!
>
> [1] https://medias.cdn.trustedcomputinggroup.org/production/Trusted_Platform_Module_2_0_Library_Part_3_Commands_Version_185_pub_87a5c10230.pdf
> [2] https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.204.pdf
> [3] https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.205.pdf
>
>
> > Br, Jarkko
> >
>
>
> Regards,
> Arun Menon
>
Br, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-26 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-25 20:18 [PATCH v4 0/6] tpm_crb: Add command and response buffer " Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] tpm_crb: Add register definitions of TPM CRB chunking fields Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] tpm_crb: Split start method into a separate header Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-26 14:28 ` Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] tpm_crb: Add start_cmd parameter to tpm_crb_start wrapper Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] tpm: tis_i2c: Use local 4KB buffer to limit memory usage Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support Arun Menon
2026-10-25 20:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-25 21:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-26 14:30 ` Arun Menon
2026-10-26 19:32 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-10-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] tpm_crb: Implement command and response chunking logic Arun Menon
2026-10-25 21:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-26 14:31 ` Arun Menon
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