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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>
Cc: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
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	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 3/5] rust: DmaFence: Don't drop on signal
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 09:49:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atHzLshg2bMc2-78@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261016085724.1031766-5-phasta@kernel.org>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 10:57:22AM +0200, Philipp Stanner wrote:
> The original design for DmaFence intended to comply as strictly as
> possible with the "dma_fence contract", which, according to some, says
> that a fence must only be signaled once. Thus, the implementation was
> made so that a DriverFence drops on signal.
> 
> While extending JobQueue's capabilities, it was discovered that this
> characteristic causes - unnecessary - trouble: fence-data must be
> dropped in an RCU-deferred manner because the C backend demands that.
> However, fences are often signaled in atomic context (e.g., interrupt
> handler) where you don't want to drop, but signal as quickly as
> possible.
> 
> Actually, there is no real hard reason to enforce that a fence can only
> get signaled once, because the C backend is robust against multiple
> signal attempts.
> 
> What is decisive is that a) all fences signal and b) they only drop no
> earlier than 1 RCU grace period after signaling.
> 
> Don't drop a DriverFence on signal().
> 
> Signed-off-by: Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>

This seems reasonable to me, though sashiko makes a good point about
being more careful when updating the fence counter.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-16  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-16  8:57 [RFC PATCH v6 0/5] rust: Add drm::JobQueue Philipp Stanner
2026-10-16  8:57 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/5] rust: DmaFence: remove static lifetime Philipp Stanner
2026-10-16  8:57 ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/5] rust: DmaFence: Implement Deref for FenceContext Philipp Stanner
2026-10-16  8:57 ` [RFC PATCH v6 3/5] rust: DmaFence: Don't drop on signal Philipp Stanner
2026-10-16  9:49   ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-10-16  8:57 ` [RFC PATCH v6 4/5] rust: DmaFence: Replace call_rcu() with synchronize_rcu() Philipp Stanner
2026-10-16  8:57 ` [RFC PATCH v6 5/5] rust: drm: Add JobQueue Philipp Stanner

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