From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
David Dai <david.dai@linux.dev>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] sched_ext: Free a sub-scheduler a grace period after discarding its ecaps syncs
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2026 11:17:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <atSOvg1WszSymDdJ@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdba4a956a7a2e3079e27e536981ac41@kernel.org>
On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 10:16:01PM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Andrea.
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2026 at 08:56:33AM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > This is called for every possible CPU from the free path of every sched,
> > including a root without sub-scheds, whose nodes are never queued. With the lock
> > moved ahead of the test, every scheduler unload now takes all the rq locks with
> > irqs off, which on a large machine can be a lot of lock traffic.
>
> The loop this replaces also took each rq lock once, and attach and detach
> already cycle through all the rq locks several times, e.g. in scx_bypass()
> and ecaps_report(). Cycling through the rq locks isn't that expensive.
>
> > The first grace period has passed by now, so nothing queues the node again, and
> > a node taken by an in-flight batch still reads as on-list. So, can we keep the
> > lockless test in front?
>
> A node taken by an in-flight batch doesn't read as on-list.
> __scx_process_sync_ecaps() calls init_llist_node() on each node before it
> writes the pcpu and calls the ops, so the node being processed reads as
> off-list while the batch is still using it. The lockless test would still be
> safe, as the second grace period is what waits for the batch, but the
> rationale is incorrect, which is kinda par for the course given the
> complexity of this path. I'd much rather keep it as dumb as possible.
Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.
-Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-18 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-18 1:59 [PATCHSET v3 sched_ext/for-7.4] sched_ext: Report a sub-scheduler's ecaps on attach, detach and cpu hotplug Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 1:59 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched_ext: Factor out cid_pshard() Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 1:59 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched_ext: Free a sub-scheduler a grace period after discarding its ecaps syncs Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 6:56 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-18 8:16 ` Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 9:17 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-10-18 1:59 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched_ext: Report a sub-scheduler's ecaps on attach and detach Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 1:59 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched_ext: Deliver ecaps only while the root has the cpu online Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 1:59 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched_ext: Report the ecaps loss when a cpu goes offline Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 6:49 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-18 8:15 ` Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 7:01 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-18 8:16 ` Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 9:18 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-18 8:22 ` [PATCH v3 " Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 1:59 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched_ext: Leave suspend and hibernation out of the ecaps reports Tejun Heo
2026-10-18 9:19 ` [PATCHSET v3 sched_ext/for-7.4] sched_ext: Report a sub-scheduler's ecaps on attach, detach and cpu hotplug Andrea Righi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-10-17 16:45 [PATCHSET v2 " Tejun Heo
2026-10-17 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched_ext: Free a sub-scheduler a grace period after discarding its ecaps syncs Tejun Heo
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