From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
Vineeth Pillai <vineethrp@google.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
Shameer Kolothum <skolothumtho@nvidia.com>,
Himadri Chhaya-Shailesh <himadrics@protonmail.com>,
NchangRoy <royfru44@gmail.com>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: Expose pinned arenas as sized bpffs files
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 10:49:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <atXZf_TmHk7VkLDv@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM7JXB4PREVH.1BHG31CCNRXF1@gmail.com>
On Sun, Oct 18, 2026 at 12:52:46AM +0000, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 12:52 PM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > kernel to do that. But once we have the ability to create ARRAY from a
> > bunch of pre-existing memory (e.g., from memfd), this can be used both
> > in a guest and in the host, and both models, guest allocates or host
> > allocates, could be supported with the same model.
>
> I don't think it will work for their use case.
> With array of maps scx needs two lookups and two NULL checks
> on every access, and the result cannot be kept in the task ctx
> which is in arena today, since ptr_to_map_value becomes scalar.
> unless everything is converted to magically bounded array, but...
Agreed, from a sched_ext perspective, arena is really what we need. Most
of the new schedulers already keep their per-task and per-CPU state in
the arena, and an idea could be to link that state directly to the
shared hints, e.g., keep a pointer to the vCPU's hint slot in the
per-CPU context and dereference it in the hot paths, without any lookup.
Andrii, about the 4G / single arena limitation: for this use case I
don't think it's not a concern, the shared part is a few pages per vCPU.
Having the shared pages in the same arena as the rest of the scheduler
state is exactly the property we want.
Thanks,
-Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-19 8:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-10 22:45 Andrea Righi
2026-10-10 22:45 ` [PATCH 1/5] bpf: Add an arena flag to retain allocated pages Andrea Righi
2026-10-10 22:45 ` [PATCH 2/5] bpf: Expose pinned arenas as sized bpffs files Andrea Righi
2026-10-10 23:40 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-10 22:45 ` [PATCH 3/5] docs/bpf: Document pinned arena file mappings Andrea Righi
2026-10-10 23:19 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-10 22:45 ` [PATCH 4/5] selftests/bpf: Test " Andrea Righi
2026-10-10 23:40 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-10 22:46 ` [PATCH 5/5] selftests/bpf: Test two-way arena access with two guests Andrea Righi
2026-10-10 23:40 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-15 17:50 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: Expose pinned arenas as sized bpffs files Josh Don
2026-10-19 8:17 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-16 19:03 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-16 19:52 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-10-18 0:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-19 8:49 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-10-19 8:44 ` Andrea Righi
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