From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=95.215.58.83 ARC-Seal: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; t=1792514685; b=mcYBHvC5shLHJR6zuaHZyRyNvS5Y2g7eJa0fUZzkDsqbMAV2hhG7/8EmAgQMhDfndVqH ZcnGPwWJwqvxHsKazEtjLsIbVtAjlMGdt6OlRI3Ka/HI/Oaa23vT2R9u8MnXv/YXRW4su U028Uml2l1TRMVM2QIRh48NSJw3TfRzrslK/QgCBLFswcwIHlUMa0rKQuLn23Y+hr2npc /MC+OguYKr7dmP/zynS1Jd7OhGjIJ+F866Q/GhQzbK4TfEtDag5Q1bK4AzTG/OvfkB6H6 qumhQZ44bSaGBJmBn02J/WThYM+/waL+t6jF4MCkhJDi+BuiVv9pHTBxRsNZIxvEeUQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1792514685; h=DMARC-Filter:X-Envelope-To:DKIM-Signature:X-Envelope-To:Received: X-Mizu-Trace-ID:X-Migadu-Flow:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; bh=aTmACZ/+QtvgkXkB87/Q1326A2lmn3wrW3YNYzLyp4k=; b=JdWtgaHZQwNbITGgAhvH8CNunwqGu3vZm3IP61OYaJhLKDVnpz3sghkS3Z3YYd3qEPCT X/oPNUHJOmCQqpb+yxhn/JlmDqKTiN1nYyLM325RRZwS+zve8rSOGpp8LRH5op2Ry91qG dOc9c4fTIiLpPVIFSGN0nBs33JlfmYwgz9IcimEM+mseVliTfi+NZMJR2JAWbdF8ehaq4 +ogwKO4XpmbEb2NposQpZfL4msJBjkBNf6sgWRNXoLpOWd9FQD7Gm1dlAfxHKzw9E85dW XjjN5BV2ItlRXf8X+P3RP+dsIvflWpgjGnC1tq+Tlc2dYwn8hb+V0WNasQHDzBlsNgA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass header.from=wyuan.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wyuan.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=95.215.58.83 Received: from mta1.migadu.com (out-83.mta1.migadu.com [95.215.58.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12716606A31D for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2026 16:44:43 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 smtp.subspace.kernel.org 12716606A31D Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=wyuan.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wyuan.org X-Envelope-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=XjqcV9ZvR7h/4pI77pPXVunNE25bWrZE4kzLXH0JbYw=; c=simple/simple; d=wyuan.org; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=key1; t=1792514682; v=1; x=1793119482; b=si/2oLkZmD6SnimNJ+tZuKJtRdyDt48CmadO9NqYzqhwXYQlHTvmiIQ1owzOqCHbt2baDEQC qozgwb1UHftuHj50CgzAZijG6ySqffmCQpk+m2MFSrP+5CFUZwHePKfRUgIx9XgxZ979W14SJdX 8Fc2BDOoO0GRD0IJuQNlmLtEUWTQ7mAkSVQu5QXazwyTpS/Mdw679p0YQVnnSRosFGRB0Z1sNBb nJFaBiF0lXfFNdOimrRfxG1QPPavt+y0LVZ31M6Aa/lr1Fk9Cu+uV2yvb4+WBJ07xT0cm0xIS/e YNzqs3y9qAxS1Eb+3g+Xmpm4GPw4F12p8cT3WMMNOH4UQ== X-Envelope-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Received: by smtp.migadu.com with ESMTPS id 3e91a7bb92a9dc53; Tue, 20 Oct 2026 16:44:41 +0000 X-Mizu-Trace-ID: 3e91a7bb92a9dc53 X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:44:37 +0800 From: Weijie Yuan To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Joe Perches , Jonathan Corbet , Shuah Khan , Randy Dunlap , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org, Federico Vaga , Akira Yokosawa , Carlos Bilbao , Avadhut Naik , Alex Shi , Yanteng Si , Dongliang Mu , Chen-Yu Yeh , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Petr Pavlu Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML Message-ID: References: <20261020-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v2-0-162aea473488@linuxfoundation.org> X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20261020-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v2-0-162aea473488@linuxfoundation.org> On 2026-10-20 11:35:24 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > LKML has become mostly a firehose of patches that are already going to a > subsystem list. The reason is THE REST: it matches every file in the > tree, so get_maintainer.pl adds linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org to every > single patch. During the week of Oct 1-7, 2026: > > - LKML carried 13,641 messages (~1,950/day), 90% of which were also > sent to at least one other list; > - with ~2,100 subscribers, that is about 29 million deliveries per > week for LKML alone. > > This issue came up during the 2026 Maintainer Summit and the consensus > was that "always include linux-kernel for every patch" was never the > intent. > > This series makes THE REST a fallback as initially intended: it is only > added for a file when no other matching MAINTAINERS section provides a > mailing list that get_maintainer.pl would actually output for it. > Patch 2 updates submitting-patches.rst, which currently tells submitters > to send every patch to LKML. > > Several v1 reviewers asked for a catch-all list that would keep carrying > every patch for those who want to follow all kernel development. That > is a worthwhile discussion, but it is separate from this series, which > only restores THE REST to its original role. > > Translation maintainers are Cc'd because the it_IT, ja_JP, sp_SP, zh_CN > and zh_TW versions of submitting-patches.rst carry the same "send every > patch to LKML" advice and will need a follow-up update once the English > text is settled. Thanks. Added to the todo list.