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From: Matt Fleming <mfleming@cloudflare.com>
To: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Cc: Caleb Kan <calebkan1106@gmail.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	 Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	 Caleb Kan <ckan@cloudflare.com>,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/11] stackdepot: reduce memory use for persistent stack records with a trie
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 15:29:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atodIhryrdxsU5mB@matt-Precision-5490> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ateDvB145CN_R7CA@elver.google.com>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2026 at 03:07:40PM +0000, 'Marco Elver' via kernel-team wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 02:13PM +0100, Caleb Kan wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This series reduces the memory used by persistent stack depot records by
> > sharing common frame prefixes in a path-compressed trie.
> > 
> > Cloudflare runs KASAN on pre-production servers so allocation and free
> > stack traces are available when diagnosing memory-safety bugs. On some of
> > these servers, stack depot exhausted its pool budget even after we raised
> > stack_depot_max_pools from 8,192 to 32,768. Once the depot is full, a new
> > persistent trace returns no handle and a later KASAN report can lose the
> > history needed to explain the bug.
> > 
> > With 4 KiB pages, 32,768 order-2 pools allow 512 MiB of stack storage.
> > Doubling the limit again would allow 1 GiB, but it would not change the
> > linear growth: the hash backend shares identical complete traces, while
> > two traces that differ by one frame are still stored independently.
> > 
> > The trie is opt-in and disabled by default.
> 
> Have you measured how much of the memory reduction comes simply from
> storing 32-bit compressed frames (patch 9) directly inside the existing
> hash-backed struct stack_record? That alone cuts frame storage by
> ~40-45% across *all* callers (including page_owner and KASAN aux stacks)
> with O(1) lookups and none of the trie/bitmap/RCU complexity. If prefix
> sharing is still needed on top of that, deduplicating fixed-size (e.g.
> 4- or 8-frame) immutable segments from caller to callee in the existing
> hash table (chained via parent_handle) would avoid mutable child arrays,
> RCU retirement, and the bitmap allocator entirely.

No, I don't think we've done that. But I will run the numbers and
report back.

Thanks,
Matt

      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-22 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08 13:13 Caleb Kan
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] stackdepot: stop preallocating after the final pool Caleb Kan
2026-10-16 16:53   ` Marco Elver
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] stackdepot: add caller-owned stack trace fetching Caleb Kan
2026-10-20 11:00   ` Marco Elver
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/11] mm/page_owner: preserve accounting with countable stack depot records Caleb Kan
2026-10-20 11:11   ` Marco Elver
2026-10-22 14:25     ` Matt Fleming
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] mm/kmemleak: print trie-backed stack depot traces Caleb Kan
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/11] kmsan: report " Caleb Kan
2026-10-20 14:53   ` Marco Elver
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/11] mm/slub: materialize " Caleb Kan
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/11] drm/locking: preserve deadlock diagnostics for trie-backed stacks Caleb Kan
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/11] scripts/gdb: reject trie-backed stack depot handles Caleb Kan
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/11] stackdepot: add architecture hooks for compact frame storage Caleb Kan
2026-10-20 14:56   ` Marco Elver
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/11] stackdepot: share persistent stack prefixes with trie storage Caleb Kan
2026-10-20 15:04   ` Marco Elver
2026-09-08 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/11] stackdepot: add KUnit tests for " Caleb Kan
2026-10-07 10:34 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/11] stackdepot: reduce memory use for persistent stack records with a trie Matt Fleming
2026-10-20 15:07 ` Marco Elver
2026-10-22 14:29   ` Matt Fleming [this message]

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