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From: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	 dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Add min slice check when selecting CPU
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2026 11:57:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <au7SabL5pfbsApyB@scheduler.schedules> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261106151947.3991524-7-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>


Hi Vincent,


Sashiko reviewed this one so I'll just put here my own concerns instead
of repeating.


On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 04:19:33PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:

> Add a new level for selecting CPU when select_task_rq_fair() fails to find
> an idle CPU. This last level compares the min slice to select a CPU where
> the task could run 1st.
> This helps a waking task to select a CPU where a longer slice runs
> instead of one where a task with the same or shorter slice already runs.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/core.c |   2 +-
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 157 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>  2 files changed, 102 insertions(+), 57 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index 031efe7d49fb..d71da9069218 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -9012,7 +9012,7 @@ void __init sched_init(void)
>  		rq->sd = NULL;
>  		rq->rd = NULL;
>  		rq->cpu_capacity = SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE;
> -		rq->min_slice = ULONG_MAX;
> +		rq->min_slice = 0;
>  		rq->balance_callback = &balance_push_callback;
>  		rq->active_balance = 0;
>  		rq->next_balance = jiffies;
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index cfc99b94d9ce..039dce244aaa 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -8842,11 +8842,25 @@ static inline int sched_balance_find_dst_cpu(struct sched_domain *sd, struct tas
>  	return new_cpu;
>  }
>  
> -static inline int __select_idle_cpu(int cpu, struct task_struct *p)
> +static inline bool choose_sched_slice_rq(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
>  {
> -	if (choose_idle_cpu(cpu, p) && sched_cpu_cookie_match(cpu_rq(cpu), p))
> +	if (p->se.slice < get_rq_min_slice(rq))
> +		return true;
> +
> +	return false;
> +}
> +
> +static inline int __select_idle_cpu(int cpu, struct task_struct *p, int *slice_cpu)
> +{
> +	if (!sched_cpu_cookie_match(cpu_rq(cpu), p))
> +		return -1;
> +
> +	if (choose_idle_cpu(cpu, p))
>  		return cpu;
>  
> +	if (*slice_cpu == -1 && choose_sched_slice_rq(cpu_rq(cpu), p))
> +		*slice_cpu = cpu;
> +
>  	return -1;
>  }


Look here:

CPU1: CPU2:
FA    RA
      FC

CPU2 has 1 RT and 1 Fair tasks named RA and FC.
Let's say RA is running on CPU2 and FC's slice is 10 ms.

And let's say FA has 8 ms slice, and a fair task named TC is waking up
with 9 ms slice:

* We look to CPU1, 9 < 8 is false so we return false

* We look to CPU2, 9 < 10 is true so we return it.

But the problem is, CPU2 has a RT task running and we are going to
compete with the RT task. In that case it can be worse than CPU1.

So, I would suggest something like this or so:


(My editor got crazy, so I had to copy this diff :<)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index 262626455497..8b0dd858f332 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -8876,10 +8876,8 @@ static inline int sched_balance_find_dst_cpu(struct sched_domain *sd, struct tas
 
 static inline bool choose_sched_slice_rq(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
 {
-	if (p->se.slice < get_rq_min_slice(rq))
-		return true;
-
-	return false;
+	return p->se.slice < get_rq_min_slice(rq) &&
+		READ_ONCE(rq->curr)->sched_class == &fair_sched_class;
 }
 
 static inline int __select_idle_cpu(int cpu, struct task_struct *p, int *slice_cpu)
@@ -9193,7 +9191,6 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
 	bool has_idle_core = sched_smt_active() && test_idle_cores(target);
 	unsigned long task_util, util_min, util_max, best_cap = 0;
 	int fits, best_fits = ASYM_IDLE_THREAD_MISFIT;
-	unsigned long task_slice;
 	int cpu, best_cpu = -1;
 	struct cpumask *cpus;
 	int nr = INT_MAX;
@@ -9204,7 +9201,6 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
 	task_util = task_util_est(p);
 	util_min = uclamp_eff_value(p, UCLAMP_MIN);
 	util_max = uclamp_eff_value(p, UCLAMP_MAX);
-	task_slice = p->se.slice;
 
 	if (sched_feat(SIS_UTIL) && sd->shared) {
 		/*
@@ -9260,7 +9256,7 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
 			else if (fits > 0)
 				fits = ASYM_IDLE_THREAD_FITS;
 
-		} else if (fits > 0 && task_slice < get_rq_min_slice(cpu_rq(cpu))) {
+		} else if (fits > 0 && choose_sched_slice_rq(cpu_rq(cpu), p)) {
 			fits = ASYM_BUSY_THREAD_FITS;
 			cpu_cap = get_actual_cpu_capacity(cpu);
 		} else {



Cheers,

Kayra :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-07  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-06 15:19 [PATCH 00/18 v3] Improving latency of short slice tasks Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 01/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Decay positive lag of sleeping entities Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 02/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag at wakeup when prev CPU has been idle Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 16:22   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 03/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag at wakeup when migrating and prev " Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 18:05   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 04/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 18:39   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 05/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Add per cpu cached min_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-11-07  6:53   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 06/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Add min slice check when selecting CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-11-07  8:57   ` Kayra Cizmeci [this message]
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 07/20 v3] sched/fair: Prepare select_task_rq_fair() to be called for new cases Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 08/20 v3] sched/fair: Add push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 09/20 v3] sched/fair: Optimize " Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 10/20 v3] sched/core: Add rq flag to tick parameters Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 11/20 v3] sched/fair: Add force push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 12/20 v3] sched/fair: Support not wakeup case in select_idle_sibling Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 13/20] sched/eevdf: Try to push short slice task on a better CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 14/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Push short slice task that are not picked Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 15/20 v3] sched/fair: Enable push task for preempt short Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 16/20 v3] energy model: Add a get previous state function Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 17/20 v3] sched/fair: Rework feec() to use cost instead of spare capacity Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 18/20 v3] energy model: Remove unused em_cpu_energy() Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 19/20 v3] sched/fair: Take into account slice in EAS Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 20/20 v3] sched/fair: Fix tasks stacking on same idle CPU Vincent Guittot

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