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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "Liam R. Howlett (Google)" <liam@infradead.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	maple-tree@lists.infradead.org, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Chris Mason <mason@kernel.org>, Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	Andrew Ballance <andrewjballance@gmail.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] rhashtable: fix vmalloc() deadlock in atomic rehash
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2026 17:23:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auNzGgj3OqLTG0Cl@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jfvq7vkx73vzp2ukq6nwnb3v3g2ezdcyppba4oa5lpzmz6ls6t@akc46gonndgy>

On Thu 29-10-26 10:53:56, Liam R. Howlett (Google) wrote:
> 
> Sorry for missing the ML in my initial email, I missed it from
> get_maintainers.  I should have really clued in with such a small cc
> list ;)
> 
> On 26/10/29 11:08AM, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 10:16:36AM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 11:42:18AM -0400, Liam R. Howlett (Google) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Below, one CPU adds an FDB entry for an RTM_NEWNEIGH netlink request,
> > > > while another CPU is inside vmalloc() or vfree():
> > > > 
> > > >     RTM_NEWNEIGH                      vmalloc() or vfree()
> > > >     ============                      ====================
> > > >     spin_lock_bh(&br->hash_lock)
> > > >                                       spin_lock(&vn->busy.lock)
> > > >     rhashtable_insert_rehash()
> > > >       kvmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC)
> > > >         vmalloc()
> > > >           spin_lock(&vn->busy.lock)
> > > >             waits for the other CPU
> > > >                                       softirq: a frame for the bridge
> > > >                                         spin_lock(&br->hash_lock)
> > > >                                           waits for RTM_NEWNEIGH
> > > 
> > > I think this is a fundamental bug in the kvmalloc non-blocking
> > > support patch.  How can it be used at all if it is susceptible
> > > to such dead-locks?
> > > 
> > > And if you can't use it safely why don't we just get rid of the
> > > broken kvmalloc non-block path and have it always go to kmalloc
> > > like it did before?
> > >  
> > If we have a look at this as we did not have vmalloc() here:
> > 
> > 
> >      RTM_NEWNEIGH                      foo() or ...
> >      ============                      ====================
> >      lock_bh(&br->hash_lock)
> >                                        foo()
> >                                         lock(B)
> >      rhashtable_insert_rehash()
> >          foo()
> >            lock(B)
> >              waits for the other CPU
> >                                        softirq: a frame for the bridge
> >                                          lock(&br->hash_lock)
> >                                            waits for RTM_NEWNEIGH
> > 
> > Same issue?
> 
> Looks like it to me.
> 
> > 
> > I have a question:
> > 
> > GFP_ATOMIC/GFP_NOWAIT guarantee they do not sleep. Do they guarantee
> > not hitting ABBA dead-locks or they are not interrupted?
> 
> GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT can be interrupted.  It's more about not
> waiting for reclaim (kswapd might still run) and GFP_ATOMIC might dip
> into reserves.
> 
> The issue is that kvmalloc() now falls back to vmalloc() for
> non-blocking flags (I am restating this to make sure I'm not missing
> something here, please correct me).

Isn't the real problem that vmalloc should use irqsave version of the
spinlock to preserve the locking constrains of the caller?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-29 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-28 15:42 [PATCH 0/4] Lib fixes for 7.3 Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-28 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] maple_tree: Fix rcu reader NULL dereference after the tree is emptied Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-28 15:42 ` [PATCH 2/4] maple_tree: Test emptying tree while RCU reading Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-28 15:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] maple_tree: Update internal warning and bug_on code Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-28 17:54   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-28 18:37     ` Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-28 15:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] rhashtable: fix vmalloc() deadlock in atomic rehash Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-29  2:16   ` Herbert Xu
2026-10-29 10:08     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-10-29 14:53       ` Liam R. Howlett (Google)
2026-10-29 16:23         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-10-30  4:48         ` Herbert Xu
2026-10-30  9:52           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-10-29 20:02   ` Matthew Wilcox

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