From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>,
Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] memcg: force charges from reclaim before trying the limits
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 20:34:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <auli2Zlf1F0tyi4X@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auhN7v127jwy-q-W@tiehlicka>
On Mon, Nov 02, 2026 at 09:46:38AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 30-10-26 13:54:13, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > Reclaim can charge memory, for example when zswap stores a page.
> > try_charge_memcg() forces these PF_MEMALLOC charges, but only after
> > they fail at a limit. A charge that fits still has memory.high
> > enforced. That can make a task in direct reclaim do more reclaim and
> > sleep longer later, and kswapd records overage that it never handles.
> >
> > It is also a problem for the next patches, which make kernel threads
> > queue high_work. The worker charges memory from its own reclaim, so it
> > can queue itself again. With those patches but not this one, the worker
> > queued itself in 118 of 284 runs in a VM test with incompressible zswap
> > data.
> >
> > Check PF_MEMALLOC before trying the limits. Reclaim charges then skip
> > memory.high, as they can already go over memory.max. Drop the
> > PF_MEMALLOC check in memcg_enforce_high(), which no longer sees them.
> >
> > Other effects:
> > - As before, the check reads current, so it also catches interrupts on
> > a PF_MEMALLOC task such as kswapd. Softirqs set PF_MEMALLOC
> > themselves for swap over network, so the check can't be limited to
> > task context.
> > - These charges no longer charge a batch or refill the per-cpu stock.
> > - MEMCG_MAX still goes to the first cgroup that the charge puts over
> > its limit. On cgroup v1, memory.failcnt no longer counts them.
> > - high_work can still run again and again when there is nothing left
> > to reclaim. This only stops reclaim from queuing more reclaim.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> > ---
> > mm/memcontrol.c | 29 +++++++++++++++++------------
> > 1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > index 0e484f7f823a..af95a4574a0f 100644
> > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > @@ -2762,7 +2762,6 @@ static void memcg_enforce_high(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, unsigned int nr_pages,
> > * when it rechecks the overage and simply bail out.
> > */
> > if (current->memcg_nr_pages_over_high > MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH &&
> > - !(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC) &&
> > gfpflags_allow_blocking(gfp_mask))
> > __mem_cgroup_handle_over_high(gfp_mask);
> > }
> > @@ -2787,6 +2786,21 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> > if (consume_stock(memcg, nr_pages))
> > return ret;
> >
> > + /*
> > + * Reclaim may need memory to free memory. Let it go over the
> > + * limits for a while rather than fail or OOM kill. Doing this
> > + * before trying the limits also skips memory.high, so the
> > + * high_work worker can't queue itself from its own reclaim.
> > + */
> > + if (unlikely(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC)) {
> > + /* Find the cgroup this charge puts over its limit, if any. */
> > + for (mem_over_limit = memcg; mem_over_limit;
> > + mem_over_limit = parent_mem_cgroup(mem_over_limit))
> > + if (mem_cgroup_margin(mem_over_limit) < nr_pages)
> > + break;
> > + goto force;
> > + }
>
> This is racy. Not a huge deal as we would get a false event in the worst
> case but I think it would make more sense to check the margine after the
> charge is forced. So this would become
I actually tested your version as well i.e. after the charge. It is just
as racy and it has some additional issues which are inlined.
> ---
> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> index 856a7d07586c..bd202ec05acf 100644
> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> @@ -2653,13 +2653,20 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> bool passed_oom = false;
> unsigned int reclaim_options;
> bool drained = false;
> - bool raised_max_event = false;
First, raised_max_event can't go. Since 374f65b14819 rejected charges use it
too, and without it forced charges that already raised MEMCG_MAX before reclaim
raise it again.
> unsigned long pflags;
> bool allow_spinning = gfpflags_allow_spinning(gfp_mask);
>
> retry:
> if (consume_stock(memcg, nr_pages))
> return 0;
> + /*
> + * Reclaim may need memory to free memory. Let it go over the
> + * limits for a while rather than fail or OOM kill. Doing this
> + * before trying the limits also skips memory.high, so the
> + * high_work worker can't queue itself from its own reclaim.
> + */
> + if (unlikely(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC))
> + goto force;
>
> if (!allow_spinning)
> /* Avoid the refill and flush of the older stock */
> @@ -2683,15 +2690,6 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> goto retry;
> }
>
> - /*
> - * Prevent unbounded recursion when reclaim operations need to
> - * allocate memory. This might exceed the limits temporarily,
> - * but we prefer facilitating memory reclaim and getting back
> - * under the limit over triggering OOM kills in these cases.
> - */
> - if (unlikely(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC))
> - goto force;
> -
> if (unlikely(task_in_memcg_oom(current)))
> goto nomem;
>
> @@ -2712,7 +2710,6 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> goto nomem;
>
> __memcg_memory_event(mem_over_limit, MEMCG_MAX, allow_spinning);
> - raised_max_event = true;
>
> psi_memstall_enter(&pflags);
> nr_reclaimed = try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(mem_over_limit, nr_pages,
> @@ -2773,13 +2770,6 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> if (!(gfp_mask & (__GFP_NOFAIL | __GFP_HIGH)))
> return -ENOMEM;
> force:
> - /*
> - * If the allocation has to be enforced, don't forget to raise
> - * a MEMCG_MAX event.
> - */
> - if (!raised_max_event)
> - __memcg_memory_event(mem_over_limit, MEMCG_MAX, allow_spinning);
> -
> /*
> * The allocation either can't fail or will lead to more memory
> * being freed very soon. Allow memory usage go over the limit
> @@ -2789,6 +2779,15 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> if (do_memsw_account())
> page_counter_charge(&memcg->memsw, nr_pages);
>
> + /*
> + * If the allocation has to be enforced, don't forget to raise
> + * a MEMCG_MAX event.
> + */
> + for (mem_over_limit = memcg; mem_over_limit;
> + mem_over_limit = parent_mem_cgroup(mem_over_limit))
> + if (!mem_cgroup_margin(mem_over_limit))
Second, !mem_cgroup_margin() is true at usage == max, so a charge that fits
exactly raises an event (unlike today).
> + __memcg_memory_event(mem_over_limit, MEMCG_MAX, allow_spinning);
Third, we definitely need a break here otherwise every ancestor at its limit gets
an event which does not happen today.
I want to keep my current version.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-03 4:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-30 20:54 [PATCH v2 0/5] memcg: clean up memory.high enforcement Shakeel Butt
2026-10-30 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] memcg: move memory.high enforcement out of try_charge_memcg() Shakeel Butt
2026-10-31 0:45 ` Muchun Song
2026-10-30 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] memcg: force charges from reclaim before trying the limits Shakeel Butt
2026-10-31 0:46 ` Muchun Song
2026-11-02 8:46 ` Michal Hocko
2026-11-03 4:34 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-11-03 8:34 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-30 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] memcg: use high_work for kernel threads Shakeel Butt
2026-10-31 0:47 ` Muchun Song
2026-10-30 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] memcg: use high_work for remote charges Shakeel Butt
2026-10-31 0:48 ` Muchun Song
2026-10-30 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] memcg: simplify high limit handling after a charge Shakeel Butt
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