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From: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
To: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
	"Harry Yoo" <harry@kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <dev@lankhorst.se>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Natalie Vock" <nat@pixelcluster.dev>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Oscar Salvador" <osalvador@suse.de>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/7] mm/page_counter: move stock from mem_cgroup to page_counter
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 17:17:10 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auwfZj6QTwQqFIZb@parvat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261104233029.3282438-1-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2026 at 03:30:21PM -0800, Joshua Hahn wrote:
> v7 --> v8
> =========
> - Rebase onto mm-new as of 11/03/2026. This picks up two memcg series
>   that required some rework:
>   - Kuniyuki Iwashima's memcg stock cleanups were worked into the
>     series, so the changes now live in page_counter code instead.
>   - Shakeel Butt's memory.high rework. Commit 4/7 folds in his
>     PF_MEMALLOC change into the page_counter checks. This change was
>     suggested by Shakeel.
> - Commit 7/7 is new. It brings back an optimization from an earlier
>   version of the series to let stock charge only accumulate on leaf
>   cgroups.
>   - To accommodate this change, sprinkle in READ_ONCE() for
>     counter->stock reads since the pointer can change at runtime now.
> - Cover letter rework as suggested by Michal Hocko.
> 
> INTRODUCTION
> ============
> Memcg keeps a per-CPU stock of precharged pages so that small and
> frequent allocations do not walk the page_counter hierarchy every time.
> Today, the stock implementation lives in memcontrol code, even though
> the operation it caches is a page_counter charge. This makes it
> difficult to add new page_counters to a memcg and preserve the fast path
> behavior.
> 
> This series moves the stock into the page_counter layer.
> page_counter_try_charge() consumes the stock, charges a batch to the
> hierarchy on a miss, and refills the stock with the surplus. Memcg no
> longer manages the stock in try_charge_memcg.
> 
> So the stock keeps the existing layout, which is still a per-CPU bank
> of 7 slots, each holding a count of precharged pages that it hands out.
> It maintains exclusion using local locks on each CPU, and for remote
> drains we schedule on the memcg workqueue.
> 
> This change gives us the following benefits:
> - Separate charge caching (page_counter) from charge policy (memcg).
> - Makes it simple to keep stock out of interior cgroups on cgroup v2.
> - Prepares for future work for stock improvement, which can now be
>   isolated from memcg changes.
> 
> With this change, make sure to preserve:
> - All locking behavior is unchanged from before.
> - Non-leaf cgroups do not hold stock. Specifically, their stock is
>   drained when they become a parent, and remaining stock (isolated CPUs,
>   concurrent refills, etc.) gets drained lazily on future stock misses.
> - Exact charging for non-spinning callers.
> - Stocks only exist for the memory and memsw page_counters as before.
>   Other page_counters (swap, v1 kmem, v1 tcpmem, hugetlb_cgroup, dmem)
>   don't stock as before.
> 
> EFFECT ON CGROUP V2 USERS
> =========================
> Currently when a cgroup becomes a parent, it doesn't drain the stock.
> Rather, it just prevents new charges from accumulating by nature of
> parent cgroups not having processes. Here, we can do a little better.
> When a cgroup becomes a parent, schedule drains right away, in addition
> to making sure parents don't accumulate new charges.
> 
> Everything else is preserved. We preserve all draining, refilling,
> and (un)charging behavior, including the uncharge path's refills
> and direct uncharges.
> 
> EFFECT ON CGROUP V1 USERS
> =========================
> The memory and memsw counters now have separate stocks, which can hit,
> evict, and drain independently. Their raw values can therefore drift
> apart by the stocked amounts, even though every charge is applied to
> both.
> 
> To preserve the user-visible property that
> memory.usage_in_bytes <= memory.memsw.usage_in_bytes, the memory
> value reports the smaller of the two values. Both raw values are already
> upper bounds on real usage, so this stays within the fuzz that
> usage_in_bytes always had (and this is also already documented, see
> section 5.5 usage_in_bytes in Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v1/
> memory.rst).
> 
> TESTING
> =======
> This series should not have big changes to performance, so I ran some
> benchmarks to verify that. I did testing on a 16-CPU, 32G machine VM.
> I ran repeated anonymous memory faults and MADV_DONTNEED to measure the
> CPU time spent per page. So + number is worse. I ran each experiment
> 5 times, with 4 workers.
> 
> +-----------+-----------+--------------+-------+
> |           | base (ns) | patched (ns) | delta |
> +-----------+-----------+--------------+-------+
> | cgroup v1 |     890.6 |        901.8 | +1.2% |
> | cgroup v2 |     893.5 |        902.2 | +1.0% |
> +-----------+-----------+--------------+-------+
> 
> Based on mm-new as of 11/03/26:
> 74d73ffcffe03 "riscv: mm: fix concurrency in mark_new_valid_map()"
> 
> Joshua Hahn (7):
>   mm/memcontrol: flatten try_charge_memcg control flow
>   mm/page_counter: introduce per-CPU stock
>   mm/page_counter: make page_counter_try_charge() stock-aware
>   mm/memcontrol: check PF_MEMALLOC after trying the limits
>   mm/memcontrol: move memory stock to page counters
>   mm/memcontrol: add stock to the memsw page counter
>   mm/memcontrol: restrict memory stock to leaf cgroups on v2
> 
>  include/linux/page_counter.h |  35 ++-
>  kernel/cgroup/dmem.c         |   2 +-
>  mm/hugetlb_cgroup.c          |   2 +-
>  mm/memcontrol-v1.c           |  17 +-
>  mm/memcontrol.c              | 430 +++++++++++++----------------------
>  mm/page_counter.c            | 233 ++++++++++++++++++-
>  6 files changed, 430 insertions(+), 289 deletions(-)
>

Is the main motivation ease of addition of page_counters to a memcg?
What would those counters be, why not add them here?

Balbir

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05  6:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-04 23:30 Joshua Hahn
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] mm/memcontrol: flatten try_charge_memcg control flow Joshua Hahn
2026-11-05  6:08   ` Balbir Singh
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] mm/page_counter: introduce per-CPU stock Joshua Hahn
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] mm/page_counter: make page_counter_try_charge() stock-aware Joshua Hahn
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] mm/memcontrol: check PF_MEMALLOC after trying the limits Joshua Hahn
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] mm/memcontrol: move memory stock to page counters Joshua Hahn
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] mm/memcontrol: add stock to the memsw page counter Joshua Hahn
2026-11-04 23:30 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] mm/memcontrol: restrict memory stock to leaf cgroups on v2 Joshua Hahn
2026-11-05  6:17 ` Balbir Singh [this message]

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