From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] writeback: report a slow writeback wait once per timeout
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 08:44:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <avH2FWw6-N8s03Zb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xehz3f62chf5ivwbh7f5chapypp5md5vasdtsnxfwzsebontf3@roqs5cwjk2va>
Hello Jan,
On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 03:12:16PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > Once per timeout is also how often the hung task detector checks by
> > default, and patch 3 logs the total once the wait ends, so maybe that is
> > exactly what people need? Not sure.
>
> I was mostly making jokes here. I agree reporting once per hung-task
> timeout makes more sense.
you got me here. ;-P
> > > Is this change substantially different from
> > > writeback_sb_inodes() waking up done->waitq less frequently?
> >
> > You mean the ->progress_stamp field? That is not used for reporting
> > purposes, right? Should it be?
>
> So my thinking was: If we change the wake up condition in
> writeback_sb_inodes() to use HZ * timeout as a limit instead of HZ *
> timeout / 2, then we should get one report per timeout, shouldn't we?
I think so. Let me hack it up and respin.
> > It could drop the duplicates: a wakeup with work left runs the
> > wait_event() condition twice (since 84654c7f4730, it is checked right
> > after schedule() and again after prepare_to_wait_event()), and the
> > second check would find ->progress_stamp just refreshed by the first.
> >
> > But the waiter refreshes ->progress_stamp on every wakeup, so it cannot
> > space the reports further apart than the wakeups, and those have to
> > come more often than the hung task timeout.
>
> Why do we want to wake up more often than hung task timeout? We evaluate
> the condition after each inode so the error shouldn't be that big?
Yeah, I don't think we want to wake up more often than the hung task
timeout. That should be enough here, honestly.
Thanks for the review,
--breno
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-09 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-06 12:26 [PATCH 0/4] writeback: make slow writeback report more actionable Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 12:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] writeback: add the missing newline to the slow writeback report Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 14:18 ` Jan Kara
2026-11-06 12:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] writeback: name the bdi in " Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 14:27 ` Jan Kara
2026-11-06 15:48 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 12:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] writeback: log the end of a slow writeback wait Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 14:29 ` Jan Kara
2026-11-06 12:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] writeback: report a slow writeback wait once per timeout Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 14:37 ` Jan Kara
2026-11-06 15:47 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-09 14:12 ` Jan Kara
2026-11-09 16:44 ` Breno Leitao [this message]
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