From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=91.218.175.159 ARC-Seal: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; t=1794240814; b=pMMLKIt+f6UxZ9mVUhz284b7DAXz0lUu20tVEEqiYHi54LQaHYkKlFO/RWaLuLyPbKD1 oBATafmBp4NjB9Jb9XLMSTrViBdLCzhOmLdnH13AcYfBmFVpSGyiKi8oXBATXJfazwPzs Uq+mEHZ/sNUt4AFwRfCiovjg9oC9DvTeOLjvFSBAXe2+RtTSwdPkJ/9muy/yTC1C6LRPF 4ondT2mEk6Ax+mo++joIofCnsLFf77PXYVTK7qeIat2ts8kNFTL+0ss5KJksLOxZU11ya cND0eS2wMF6Uex8WkbW0yIYDvwOCMjq7OcBRniJnxXGe4S6povXPUmw+8qUln0bGyLw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1794240814; h=DMARC-Filter:X-Envelope-To:DKIM-Signature:X-Envelope-To:Received: X-Mizu-Trace-ID:X-Migadu-Flow:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; bh=lTrZrkUaRM/l3SO4Monh9xw6nek+egDiKXFWxce24qM=; b=Ox1Ot3dDV92heNylaUNLKWrpl4O1dgoBB3M1Y2vicrm8Crdlld3yAxXTYKbxTrdyt/gJ cmgtDfewENrDs+iaLhmUrKgEkbf/io666Y6B5tFz8gJc4s2W1ZB5T4QQXqaQ6qDYjHjXp MafPa40axbFutLtOhKG0RGuYaqhBchGL5uaUpkmcrQFGbtpfMiCy7D+uLuR+3bs7TSDrg HpUHYP0BaXvXRme0sM0Nmm4dptl9xNa4hazIKaLGwyKJGxfIRZCrglCZH/pL6Yaj86aIq Q7aBmaRmqeZDpThi8qbzQXvbLKMmfaUFK0u3H3AKmmkJimQCJYnI43aN3EwszQP3SVQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass header.from=wyuan.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wyuan.org; dkim=pass header.d=wyuan.org header.i=@wyuan.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=key1 header.b=qaN9yXPZ; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=91.218.175.159 Received: from mta0.migadu.com (out-159.mta0.migadu.com [91.218.175.159]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FCF2606A325 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2026 16:13:32 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 smtp.subspace.kernel.org 9FCF2606A325 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=wyuan.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wyuan.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=wyuan.org header.i=@wyuan.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=key1 header.b=qaN9yXPZ X-Envelope-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=bpDyznseLghcgMhhTxrHfjMITToLDvq49jI8CwoHV0w=; c=simple/simple; d=wyuan.org; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=key1; t=1794240810; v=1; x=1794845610; b=qaN9yXPZKh4kIyKFecLOhyPnm11nfPLIZvd/MraS1sj/M97Ojt1Zqcio9ae2XHj5vBOtp5XA kYqt2qc5Q5iARgPlpdRkHbzIEbxAdqqUt2Qq0dCil59h7h2L4N7Q6Lstl91fxIZhT/Wfkd7ENsG Yo0qWE/ulMSplGsefYW+dZ3epvhas6LzElxNvHPFSAkJ0VYXf5AfTvXR4l00MUoUX/JlDmiGLha w+9wmRd7BsfHZurepS0+GA+yKGxEGd8Bm/MTHw4cIUkiUXvLCBh8phuMe1uHI6V6rIxQJ+cS3YV 8zq61tyKNXlffesOf3ZgEMK2uZl+YlMsPRYJLcGSsplIg== X-Envelope-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Received: by smtp.migadu.com with ESMTPS id 1b9510a6d7a3dcd8; Mon, 09 Nov 2026 16:13:30 +0000 X-Mizu-Trace-ID: 1b9510a6d7a3dcd8 X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 00:13:21 +0800 From: Weijie Yuan To: =?utf-8?B?6JGJ5a645L2R?= Cc: Dongliang Mu , Yanteng Si , Alex Shi , Jonathan Corbet , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] docs/zh_TW: process: add translations of 13 documents Message-ID: References: <20261106113545.708896-1-chenyou910331@gmail.com> <3bbce43f-476c-4a21-8da3-2be98a696e9c@hust.edu.cn> X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Chen-Yu Yeh writes: > > In the current stage, it would be more important > > to fix all severe issues in the translation other than adding more > > translation. > > Thanks for sharing your plan. I think you are right that fixing > existing translations and making them reference each other matters more > than adding new ones, and I'd like zh_TW to work that way too. > > zh_TW is at an earlier stage, though: it has only a few dozen > translations, most of them converted from zh_CN, so there are few zh_TW > documents for references to point at yet. Much of what needs fixing > also only became visible while translating; that is how the terminology > issues and these unused labels came up. > > So my plan is to first finish process/, the area the scope RFC commits > us to maintaining. After that I'll follow your approach: resolve the > references so they point at zh_TW documents where a translation exists, > fix the remaining issues in the existing translations, and only then > add new translations. The terminology cleanup will go in alongside. Sure, so in conclusion and for later reference: * We hope and aim to finish the process directory in this cycle. Since this has been decided long ago and has been kicked off recently, let's finsih process first. During this period, we try to link to existing tw translations first; if there's no translations existing, fall back to English original for now. When finished, we can check what's the status of referencing: how many we can refer to tw_docs, how many we are refering outside of our translations. Then, depending on the actual situation, a decision will be made as to whether the translation scope needs to be expanded. * Finish "Working with the development community", i.e. cover maintainer directory. If possible, we can finish it in 7.4 cycle. But there's no hurry, we can also leave it for 7.5 cycle to prevent last-minute changes. We could also do the reference check and decide how our translation will expand when the above is all done. That being said, now I'm not at my workstation, I'll try to review Chen-Yu's patch bomb ;) within this week. And check how much left here for process (or finished?), then push forward to our goal. A big thank to Chen-Yu for taking the most arduous work! And yes, I think most of the translation of tw for now do have references to the original English text, which is an inevitable situation at present. That's our intention, isn't it? If we cannot guarantee the quality of the translations, the best we can do is to temporarily keep them referring to the original text to avoid any misunderstandings or errors. Of course, it would be wonderful if all the content could be included in a native language, just like zh_CN. But for now, let's finish our first goal of zh_TW, and then catch up with CN. So I fully agree and support what zh_CN is doing, we can do that for zh_TW after this goal finished. By the way, I've started collecting signatures from k.org developers weeks ago for putting our dev tree on git.k.org as soon as possible to improve our efficiency. Hope I can get it done soon, but nevermind. This way, we won't have to bother Alex too much for help. :) Thanks Alex so much for taking care of us recently, there are enough work for him in the zh_CN side. :) Thank you all for pushing this forward.