From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
Cc: Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
kernel-team@meta.com, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
io-uring@vger.kernel.org, Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
"Mike Marciniszyn (Meta)" <mike.marciniszyn@gmail.com>,
Weiming Shi <bestswngs@gmail.com>,
Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk>,
Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Stuart Clark <stuclar@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 14:32:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <avOZa6jLnmvYkk2H@devvm16445.scu0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110102039.1002605-4-bjorn@kernel.org>
On 11/10, Björn Töpel wrote:
> UMEM stays mapped writable in userspace, and it has a fixed number of
> chunks. The stack must not keep its chunks in an skb or an xdp_frame.
> Mark the providers whose buffers the stack may keep with
> MP_CAP_RETAIN, and copy packets of the others on XDP_PASS, on
> conversion to a frame, and on redirects other than XSKMAP.
>
> The head chunk is writable by userspace, so it cannot hold
> skb_shared_info, and virt_to_netmem() cannot find a net_iov head.
> Drivers pass kernel memory for both to xdp_init_buff_netmem().
>
> A static key keeps the check off while no such page pool exists. A
> frame copy is linear, so a multi-buffer packet of such a provider
> cannot go to a device or CPU map.
>
> Signed-off-by: Björn Töpel <bjorn@kernel.org>
> ---
> include/linux/skbuff.h | 1 +
> include/net/netmem.h | 10 +++
> include/net/page_pool/memory_provider.h | 3 +
> include/net/xdp.h | 92 +++++++++++++++++++++++--
> io_uring/zcrx.c | 2 +-
> net/core/dev.h | 4 ++
> net/core/devmem.c | 2 +-
> net/core/filter.c | 20 +++++-
> net/core/page_pool.c | 30 ++++++++
> net/core/xdp.c | 78 +++++++++++++++++----
> 10 files changed, 221 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/skbuff.h b/include/linux/skbuff.h
> index 8b0039d49905..a9cc5dd0211a 100644
> --- a/include/linux/skbuff.h
> +++ b/include/linux/skbuff.h
> @@ -2691,6 +2691,7 @@ static inline void skb_add_rx_frag_netmem(struct sk_buff *skb, int i,
> int size, unsigned int truesize)
> {
> DEBUG_NET_WARN_ON_ONCE(size > truesize);
> + DEBUG_NET_WARN_ON_ONCE(!netmem_can_retain(netmem));
>
> skb_fill_netmem_desc(skb, i, netmem, off, size);
> skb->len += size;
> diff --git a/include/net/netmem.h b/include/net/netmem.h
> index f196b014184c..b986ad616334 100644
> --- a/include/net/netmem.h
> +++ b/include/net/netmem.h
> @@ -59,6 +59,7 @@ static_assert(sizeof(struct netmem_desc) <= offsetof(struct page, _refcount));
> /* net_iov */
>
> DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(page_pool_mem_providers);
> +DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(page_pool_restricted);
>
> /* We overload the LSB of the struct page pointer to indicate whether it's
> * a page or net_iov.
> @@ -414,6 +415,15 @@ static inline bool net_is_devmem_iov(const struct net_iov *niov)
> void net_iov_inc_ref(struct net_iov *niov);
> void net_iov_dec_ref(struct net_iov *niov);
>
> +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PAGE_POOL)
> +bool netmem_can_retain(netmem_ref netmem);
> +#else
> +static inline bool netmem_can_retain(netmem_ref netmem)
> +{
> + return true;
> +}
> +#endif
> +
> /**
> * netmem_inc_ref - acquire a non-page_pool reference on a netmem
> * @netmem: netmem to reference
> diff --git a/include/net/page_pool/memory_provider.h b/include/net/page_pool/memory_provider.h
> index 4417e54a0f81..e732b21be9a2 100644
> --- a/include/net/page_pool/memory_provider.h
> +++ b/include/net/page_pool/memory_provider.h
> @@ -25,10 +25,13 @@ struct sk_buff;
> * @MP_CAP_READABLE: The CPU can access provider memory. It may back header
> * page pools, and XDP programs may run on it.
> * @MP_CAP_FRAG: Page pool fragments may split provider buffers.
> + * @MP_CAP_RETAIN: The stack may keep page pool references to provider
> + * buffers after the RX poll, for example in an skb or an xdp_frame.
> */
> enum mp_caps {
> MP_CAP_READABLE = BIT(0),
> MP_CAP_FRAG = BIT(1),
> + MP_CAP_RETAIN = BIT(2),
> };
>
> struct memory_provider_ops {
> diff --git a/include/net/xdp.h b/include/net/xdp.h
> index 07231adfb5f8..1105bb9e3292 100644
> --- a/include/net/xdp.h
> +++ b/include/net/xdp.h
> @@ -81,6 +81,16 @@ enum xdp_buff_flags {
> * XDP program is not attached.
> */
> XDP_FLAGS_FRAGS_UNREADABLE = BIT(2),
> + /* Internal: the head netmem and the shared info are in &xdp_buff.ext.
> + * Not copied to xdp_frames or skbs.
> + */
> + XDP_FLAGS_EXT = BIT(3),
> +};
> +
> +/* For a head buffer that cannot hold kernel data, see xdp_init_buff_netmem() */
> +struct xdp_buff_ext {
> + netmem_ref netmem;
nit: netmem -> head ? and the same for xdp_init_buff_netmem netmem arg?
> + struct skb_shared_info sinfo;
> };
>
> struct xdp_buff {
> @@ -89,7 +99,12 @@ struct xdp_buff {
> void *data_meta;
> void *data_hard_start;
> struct xdp_rxq_info *rxq;
> - struct xdp_txq_info *txq;
> + union {
> + /* DEVMAP egress programs only */
> + struct xdp_txq_info *txq;
> + /* RX buffers with XDP_FLAGS_EXT */
> + struct xdp_buff_ext *ext;
> + };
>
> union {
> struct {
> @@ -138,7 +153,7 @@ static __always_inline void xdp_buff_set_frag_unreadable(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
>
> static __always_inline u32 xdp_buff_get_skb_flags(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> {
> - return xdp->flags;
> + return xdp->flags & ~XDP_FLAGS_EXT;
The only consumer is xdp_update_skb_frags_info, so probably not worth
filtering out XDP_FLAGS_EXT here? Or is it for
xdp_update_frame_from_buff? Can we explicitly clear it at the caller?
> }
>
> static __always_inline void xdp_buff_clear_frag_pfmemalloc(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> @@ -176,6 +191,50 @@ xdp_prepare_buff(struct xdp_buff *xdp, unsigned char *hard_start,
> xdp->data_meta = meta_valid ? data : data + 1;
> }
>
> +/* See MP_CAP_RETAIN */
> +static __always_inline bool xdp_netmem_restricted(netmem_ref netmem)
> +{
> + return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PAGE_POOL) &&
> + static_branch_unlikely(&page_pool_restricted) &&
> + !netmem_can_retain(netmem);
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * xdp_init_buff_netmem - initialize an &xdp_buff for a netmem head buffer
> + * @xdp: &xdp_buff to initialize
> + * @frame_sz: frame size
> + * @rxq: RX queue info
> + * @netmem: head buffer
> + * @ext: kernel memory used if @netmem cannot hold the shared info, or the
> + * stack must not keep it. It must live as long as @xdp.
> + *
> + * A driver that may receive into memory provider buffers uses this instead
> + * of xdp_init_buff().
> + */
> +static __always_inline void
> +xdp_init_buff_netmem(struct xdp_buff *xdp, u32 frame_sz,
> + struct xdp_rxq_info *rxq, netmem_ref netmem,
> + struct xdp_buff_ext *ext)
> +{
> + xdp_init_buff(xdp, frame_sz, rxq);
> + if (likely(!netmem_is_net_iov(netmem) &&
> + !xdp_netmem_restricted(netmem)))
> + return;
> +
> + ext->netmem = netmem;
> + xdp->ext = ext;
> + xdp->flags |= XDP_FLAGS_EXT;
> +}
> +
> +static __always_inline netmem_ref
> +xdp_buff_head_netmem(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> +{
> + if (unlikely(xdp->flags & XDP_FLAGS_EXT))
> + return xdp->ext->netmem;
> +
> + return virt_to_netmem(xdp->data);
> +}
> +
> /* Reserve memory area at end-of data area.
> *
> * This macro reserves tailroom in the XDP buffer by limiting the
> @@ -189,9 +248,28 @@ xdp_prepare_buff(struct xdp_buff *xdp, unsigned char *hard_start,
> static inline struct skb_shared_info *
> xdp_get_shared_info_from_buff(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> {
> + if (unlikely(xdp->flags & XDP_FLAGS_EXT))
> + return &xdp->ext->sinfo;
> +
> return (struct skb_shared_info *)xdp_data_hard_end(xdp);
> }
>
> +bool __xdp_buff_needs_copy(const struct xdp_buff *xdp);
> +
> +/* Must the stack copy a buffer of @xdp before it keeps it? XSK buffers are
> + * copied by their own conversion.
> + */
> +static __always_inline bool xdp_buff_needs_copy(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> +{
> + if (unlikely(xdp->flags & XDP_FLAGS_EXT))
> + return true;
> + if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PAGE_POOL) ||
> + !static_branch_unlikely(&page_pool_restricted))
> + return false;
> +
> + return __xdp_buff_needs_copy(xdp);
> +}
> +
> static __always_inline unsigned int
> xdp_get_buff_len(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> {
> @@ -379,7 +457,7 @@ xdp_update_skb_frags_info(struct sk_buff *skb, u8 nr_frags,
> void xdp_warn(const char *msg, const char *func, const int line);
> #define XDP_WARN(msg) xdp_warn(msg, __func__, __LINE__)
>
> -struct sk_buff *xdp_build_skb_from_buff(const struct xdp_buff *xdp);
> +struct sk_buff *xdp_build_skb_from_buff(struct xdp_buff *xdp);
> struct sk_buff *xdp_build_skb_from_zc(struct xdp_buff *xdp);
> struct xdp_frame *xdp_convert_zc_to_xdp_frame(struct xdp_buff *xdp);
> struct sk_buff *__xdp_build_skb_from_frame(struct xdp_frame *xdpf,
> @@ -420,12 +498,15 @@ int xdp_update_frame_from_buff(const struct xdp_buff *xdp,
> return -ENOSPC;
> }
>
> + /* The stack may keep the frame, see xdp_buff_needs_copy(). */
> + DEBUG_NET_WARN_ON_ONCE(xdp_buff_needs_copy(xdp));
> +
> xdp_frame->data = xdp->data;
> xdp_frame->len = xdp->data_end - xdp->data;
> xdp_frame->headroom = headroom - sizeof(*xdp_frame);
> xdp_frame->metasize = metasize;
> xdp_frame->frame_sz = xdp->frame_sz;
> - xdp_frame->flags = xdp->flags;
> + xdp_frame->flags = xdp_buff_get_skb_flags(xdp);
>
> return 0;
> }
> @@ -436,7 +517,8 @@ struct xdp_frame *xdp_convert_buff_to_frame(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> {
> struct xdp_frame *xdp_frame;
>
> - if (xdp->rxq->mem.type == MEM_TYPE_XSK_BUFF_POOL)
> + if (xdp->rxq->mem.type == MEM_TYPE_XSK_BUFF_POOL ||
> + xdp_buff_needs_copy(xdp))
> return xdp_convert_zc_to_xdp_frame(xdp);
>
> /* Store info in top of packet */
> diff --git a/io_uring/zcrx.c b/io_uring/zcrx.c
> index 3b5bf97aa203..98d83a8e45e4 100644
> --- a/io_uring/zcrx.c
> +++ b/io_uring/zcrx.c
> @@ -1478,7 +1478,7 @@ static const struct memory_provider_ops io_uring_pp_zc_ops = {
> .destroy = io_pp_zc_destroy,
> .nl_fill = io_pp_nl_fill,
> .uninstall = io_pp_uninstall,
> - .caps = MP_CAP_FRAG,
> + .caps = MP_CAP_FRAG | MP_CAP_RETAIN,
> };
>
> static unsigned zcrx_parse_rq(netmem_ref *netmem_array, unsigned nr,
> diff --git a/net/core/dev.h b/net/core/dev.h
> index 4e9e8cd15697..e3337013ffc8 100644
> --- a/net/core/dev.h
> +++ b/net/core/dev.h
> @@ -13,6 +13,10 @@ struct netlink_ext_ack;
> struct netdev_queue_config;
> struct cpumask;
> struct pp_memory_provider_params;
> +struct xdp_buff;
> +struct xdp_frame;
> +
> +struct xdp_frame *xdp_copy_buff_to_frame(const struct xdp_buff *xdp);
>
> /* Random bits of netdevice that don't need to be exposed */
> #define FLOW_LIMIT_HISTORY (1 << 7) /* must be ^2 and !overflow buckets */
> diff --git a/net/core/devmem.c b/net/core/devmem.c
> index 8f190b574beb..dea4a4a17e86 100644
> --- a/net/core/devmem.c
> +++ b/net/core/devmem.c
> @@ -698,5 +698,5 @@ static const struct memory_provider_ops dmabuf_devmem_ops = {
> .release_netmem = mp_dmabuf_devmem_release_page,
> .nl_fill = mp_dmabuf_devmem_nl_fill,
> .uninstall = mp_dmabuf_devmem_uninstall,
> - .caps = MP_CAP_FRAG,
> + .caps = MP_CAP_FRAG | MP_CAP_RETAIN,
Not sure I understand this part, can you explain?
These are MP_CAP_RETAIN because they are unreadable?
> };
> diff --git a/net/core/filter.c b/net/core/filter.c
> index 80380f89adf9..f93839b493b2 100644
> --- a/net/core/filter.c
> +++ b/net/core/filter.c
> @@ -4774,12 +4774,28 @@ int xdp_do_redirect(struct net_device *dev, struct xdp_buff *xdp,
> {
> struct bpf_redirect_info *ri = bpf_net_ctx_get_ri();
> enum bpf_map_type map_type = ri->map_type;
> + struct xdp_frame *xdpf;
> + int err;
>
> if (map_type == BPF_MAP_TYPE_XSKMAP)
> return __xdp_do_redirect_xsk(ri, dev, xdp, xdp_prog);
>
> - return __xdp_do_redirect_frame(ri, dev, xdp_convert_buff_to_frame(xdp),
> - xdp_prog);
> + if (likely(!xdp_buff_needs_copy(xdp)))
> + return __xdp_do_redirect_frame(ri, dev,
> + xdp_convert_buff_to_frame(xdp),
> + xdp_prog);
> +
> + /* Release the source only after the target took the copy. */
> + xdpf = xdp_copy_buff_to_frame(xdp);
> + err = __xdp_do_redirect_frame(ri, dev, xdpf, xdp_prog);
> + if (unlikely(err)) {
> + if (xdpf)
> + xdp_return_frame(xdpf);
> + return err;
> + }
> +
> + xdp_return_buff(xdp);
> + return 0;
> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(xdp_do_redirect);
>
> diff --git a/net/core/page_pool.c b/net/core/page_pool.c
> index d88a3ea528d4..8237fda598ab 100644
> --- a/net/core/page_pool.c
> +++ b/net/core/page_pool.c
> @@ -34,6 +34,10 @@
>
> DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(page_pool_mem_providers);
>
> +/* Enabled while a pool of a provider without MP_CAP_RETAIN exists. */
> +DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(page_pool_restricted);
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(page_pool_restricted);
> +
> #define DEFER_TIME (msecs_to_jiffies(1000))
> #define DEFER_WARN_INTERVAL (60 * HZ)
>
> @@ -188,6 +192,28 @@ static void page_pool_struct_check(void)
> PAGE_POOL_FRAG_GROUP_ALIGN);
> }
>
> +/**
> + * netmem_can_retain() - may the stack keep @netmem after the RX poll
> + * @netmem: netmem to check
> + *
> + * Context: the caller holds @netmem through its page pool. A plain page
> + * reference does not keep the page in its pool.
> + * Return: false if @netmem belongs to a memory provider without
> + * MP_CAP_RETAIN.
> + */
> +bool netmem_can_retain(netmem_ref netmem)
> +{
> + const struct memory_provider_ops *ops;
> +
> + netmem = netmem_compound_head(netmem);
> + if (!netmem_is_pp(netmem))
> + return true;
> +
> + ops = netmem_get_pp(netmem)->mp_ops;
> + return !ops || ops->caps & MP_CAP_RETAIN;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(netmem_can_retain);
> +
> static int page_pool_select_mp(struct page_pool *pool,
> const struct pp_memory_provider_params *mpp)
> {
> @@ -324,6 +350,8 @@ static int page_pool_init(struct page_pool *pool,
> }
>
> static_branch_inc(&page_pool_mem_providers);
> + if (!(pool->mp_ops->caps & MP_CAP_RETAIN))
> + static_branch_inc(&page_pool_restricted);
> } else if (pool->p.order > MAX_PAGE_ORDER) {
> err = -EINVAL;
> goto free_ptr_ring;
> @@ -352,6 +380,8 @@ static void page_pool_uninit(struct page_pool *pool)
> #endif
>
> if (pool->mp_ops) {
> + if (!(pool->mp_ops->caps & MP_CAP_RETAIN))
> + static_branch_dec(&page_pool_restricted);
> pool->mp_ops->destroy(pool);
> static_branch_dec(&page_pool_mem_providers);
> }
> diff --git a/net/core/xdp.c b/net/core/xdp.c
> index 1d679e8fd649..0cf46d492d91 100644
> --- a/net/core/xdp.c
> +++ b/net/core/xdp.c
> @@ -23,6 +23,8 @@
> #include <trace/events/xdp.h>
> #include <net/xdp_sock_drv.h>
>
> +#include "dev.h"
> +
> #define REG_STATE_NEW 0x0
> #define REG_STATE_REGISTERED 0x1
> #define REG_STATE_UNREGISTERED 0x2
> @@ -559,10 +561,41 @@ void xdp_return_buff(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> xdp->rxq->mem.type, true, xdp);
>
> out:
> - __xdp_return(virt_to_netmem(xdp->data), xdp->rxq->mem.type, true, xdp);
> + __xdp_return(xdp_buff_head_netmem(xdp), xdp->rxq->mem.type, true, xdp);
> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(xdp_return_buff);
>
> +bool __xdp_buff_needs_copy(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> +{
> + const struct skb_shared_info *sinfo;
> + u32 i;
> +
> + /* Provider buffers come only from page pool queues */
> + if (xdp->rxq->mem.type != MEM_TYPE_PAGE_POOL)
> + return false;
> + if (!netmem_can_retain(xdp_buff_head_netmem(xdp)))
> + return true;
> + if (likely(!xdp_buff_has_frags(xdp)))
> + return false;
> +
> + sinfo = xdp_get_shared_info_from_buff(xdp);
> + for (i = 0; i < sinfo->nr_frags; i++) {
> + if (!netmem_can_retain(skb_frag_netmem(&sinfo->frags[i])))
> + return true;
Do we want/need to go that deep? Can we have a skb-like assumptions that
mixing retain and non-retain in the same shinfo is not allowed?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-10 23:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-10 10:20 [PATCH net-next v1 00/11] xsk: Zero copy through page-pool memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 01/11] net: Get skb fragment addresses through netmem Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:19 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:32 ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 04/11] xsk: Allocate UMEM chunks through page_pool Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 15:08 ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-10 23:02 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 05/11] xsk: Install UMEM page pool providers in the core Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:50 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 06/11] page_pool: Coordinate refill with memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:51 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 07/11] xsk: Deliver provider chunks without copying Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 08/11] eth: fbnic: Support XDP redirect Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 09/11] eth: fbnic: Use netmem for RX headers and XDP_TX Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 10/11] eth: fbnic: Support RX buffers it cannot split Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 11/11] eth: fbnic: Support AF_XDP page pool zero copy Björn Töpel
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