From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Mukesh Pilaniya <mpilaniy@redhat.com>
Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Chen Pei <cp0613@linux.alibaba.com>,
George Guo <guodongtai@kylinos.cn>,
Kexin Liu <liukexin@kylinos.cn>,
Sourabh Jain <sourabhjain@linux.ibm.com>,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] kho: walk bootmem areas in address order
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2026 11:20:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <avl5QjUdYWcCP8Yo@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d5f300f-ab18-4086-8a61-c3347168067a@redhat.com>
On Fri, Nov 13, 2026 at 10:34:06PM +0530, Mukesh Pilaniya wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for the quick check. I apologies in advance if I am missing
> something obvious.
>
> On 12/11/26 2:19 pm, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 12:02:05PM +0530, Mukesh Pilaniya wrote:
> >> Hi Mike,
> >>
> >> On 04/11/26 10:20 pm, Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) wrote:
> >>> kexec_add_buffer() users may depend on the order in which memory holes are
> >>> searched. For instance, arm64 places the kernel bottom-up and then
> >>> requires the DTB to be above the kernel.
> >>>
> >>> kho_walk_bootmem() walks the bootmem areas in the order they were
> >>> reserved, so if the kernel lands in a small area at the top of the memory
> >>> there is no room left for the DTB and kexec fails. For example, on an
> >>> arm64 VM with 2G of RAM and kho_bootmem=8M,64M,64M, the lowmem area is
> >>> reserved first at the top of the memory, the kernel image takes most of
> >>> it and kexec fails with
> >>>
> >>> kexec_file(Image): Could not find any suitable kernel location!
> >>>
> >>> Sort the bootmem areas by address and walk them in ascending order, or in
> >>> descending order for top-down searches, like kexec_walk_resources() does.
> >>>
> >>> Fixes: 3bdecc3c93f9 ("kexec: add KHO support to kexec file loads")
> >>> Signed-off-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@kernel.org>
> >>> ---
> >>> kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> >>> 1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c b/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c
> >>> index 6f1f55fe31819..2ac5d94f33fd4 100644
> >>> --- a/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c
> >>> +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c
> >>> @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
> >>> #include <linux/list.h>
> >>> #include <linux/memblock.h>
> >>> #include <linux/page-isolation.h>
> >>> +#include <linux/sort.h>
> >>> #include <linux/unaligned.h>
> >>> #include <linux/vmalloc.h>
> >>>
> >>> @@ -820,6 +821,14 @@ bool kho_bootmem_overlap(phys_addr_t phys, size_t size)
> >>> return false;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> +static int __init kho_bootmem_cmp(const void *_a, const void *_b)
> >>> +{
> >>> + const struct kho_bootmem *a = _a;
> >>> + const struct kho_bootmem *b = _b;
> >>> +
> >>> + return cmp_int(a->addr, b->addr);
> >>> +}
> >>> +
> >>> /**
> >>> * kho_reserve_bootmem - Reserve a contiguous chunk of memory for kexec
> >>> *
> >>> @@ -904,6 +913,9 @@ static void __init kho_reserve_bootmem(void)
> >>> */
> >>> kho_bootmem_cnt = i;
> >>>
> >>> + sort(kho_bootmem, kho_bootmem_cnt, sizeof(*kho_bootmem),
> >>> + kho_bootmem_cmp, NULL);
> >> This only covers the case where this kernel allocated the areas itself.
> >> On a KHO boot the array comes from the previous kernel. A kernel with
> >> this series that is handed over from one without it therefore keeps
> >> walking the areas in reservation order for every following
> >> kexec_file_load, and the arm64 failure you describe comes back until the
> >> next cold boot and vise versa because the ABI string is still
> >> "kho-v4".
> >
> > If we were able to kexec from a kernel with no reservation ordering, the
> > issue is not there, isn't it?
> IMHO that holds for the image that was just handed over, but maybe not
> for the next one. The producer's last kexec_file_load did place that
> exact Image, DTB and command line through the areas in that order, so I
> agree that reloading the same image from the consumer will find the same
> spot. The order is still arbitrary though, and whether it works seems to
> depend on the size of the image being loaded.
>
> To give you the case I was looking at: on a QEMU arm64 guest with 4K
> pages, 2 GiB of RAM and kho_bootmem=44M,64M,64M, the 44 MiB lowmem area
> is reserved first, at the top of RAM (0xb8800000). The Image is about
> 38 MiB, and the DTB has to go above it on a 2 MiB boundary, which lands
> exactly on 0xbb400000, the end of that area. The load then fails with
> "kexec_file_load failed: Cannot assign requested address", and the next
> area is never tried, because the walk stops at the first area that
> cannot take the buffer. With the areas walked in address order the same
> image is placed in a lower, larger area and boots. So the first area
> decides, and a few MiB of growth in the Image or a larger DTB is enough
> to flip the result -- which is the part that makes me a bit nervous
> about the first kexec after a handover.
There's always a risk that KHO will run out of bootmem, even presuming we
fixed all our bugs :)
In your example it happens sooner then it should because there's still
free memory that kexec won't use, but it's still the same - we've run out
of bootmem.
I prefer to keep the sorting in the cold boot going forward to save a few
cycles at kexec time, so I'd rather not add sorting to the kexec'ed boot.
So the kernel from 7.5 will have it right and if there's a case when we use
an older stable kernel for the cold boot, and we see that we *really* need
sorting after kexec there we can just add such sort as a fix for stable.
BTW, in your case it's enough to switch lowmem and global sizes to gain a
few megs for future image growth, isn't it?
> It also does not settle down the chain, as far as I can tell. A kernel
> booted by KHO never reserves, so it never sorts: B inherits A's order,
> C inherits B's order, and only a cold boot sorts. That makes the same
> binary behave differently depending on how it was started. Sorting in
> kho_mem_retrieve as well would cover it.
> >
> > And after a cycle of KHO boots to newer kernels we anyway can get to the
> > point when bootmem is not large enough.
> That is the same argument, and it is probably why I am not fully
> convinced that the previous successful kexec covers the ordering case
> either. The inherited state was adequate for the load that produced the
> running kernel, not necessarily for the load it is about to perform.
>
> >
> >>> +static int kho_bootmem_walk_top_down(struct kexec_buf *kbuf,
> >>> + int (*func)(struct resource *, void *))
> >>> {
> >>> int ret = 0;
> >>> - int i;
> >>>
> >>> - for (i = 0; i < kho_bootmem_cnt; i++) {
> >>> - struct resource res = {
> >>> - .start = kho_bootmem[i].addr,
> >>> - .end = kho_bootmem[i].addr + kho_bootmem[i].size - 1,
> >>> - };
> >>> + for (int i = kho_bootmem_cnt - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
> >>
> >> kho_bootmem_cnt is unsigned, but the reverse loops in
> >> kho_reserve_bootmem() and kho_bootmem_walk_top_down() start an int
> >> counter at kho_bootmem_cnt - 1, which for a zero count is UINT_MAX
> >> converted to int. That conversion is implementation-defined; with the
> >> current compilers it yields -1 and the loop body is skipped.
> >
> > We never get here with kho_bootmem_cnt == 0.
> Unless I am misreading it, we do, via kho_bootmem=0%. The parser accepts
> it and stores the scale without a zero check, then bootmem_size_update()
> takes the explicit-size branch and assigns the zero-initialised
> bootmem_size_pernode to every node. kho_reserve_bootmem_area() returns
> early for a zero size without recording the area, so kho_bootmem_cnt
> stays 0 and kho_enable is left alone and only the error path clears it.
>
> kho_locate_mem_hole() is guarded by kho_enable only, so with cnt == 0
> both walks return 0 and the caller turns that into -EADDRNOTAVAIL: KHO
> is enabled with no regions and every kexec_file_load fails with "Cannot
> assign requested address".
>
> FWIW this became possible with 214f9649 commit, before it the
> zero-sized areas were recorded, so cnt was never 0. The zero-scale patch
> you posted in the v4 series [v3 1/5]thread closes this one.
>
> >
> >> How about using this one.
> >> for (unsigned int i = kho_bootmem_cnt; i-- > 0;)
> >>
> >> Reviewed-by: Mukesh Pilaniya <mpilaniy@redhat.com>
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Mukesh Pilaniya
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mukesh Pilaniya
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-15 9:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-04 16:50 [PATCH v2 0/3] kho: fix bootmem sizing Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-11-04 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] kho: walk bootmem areas in address order Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-11-04 18:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 22:14 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-10 16:52 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-12 6:32 ` Mukesh Pilaniya
2026-11-12 8:49 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-11-13 17:04 ` Mukesh Pilaniya
2026-11-15 9:20 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-11-04 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] kho: skip zero-sized lowmem and global bootmem areas Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-11-04 18:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 22:17 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-10 16:55 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-12 6:48 ` Mukesh Pilaniya
2026-11-04 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] kho: fix bootmem sizing Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-11-04 18:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-05 9:26 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-11-04 22:17 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-10 16:54 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-12 7:21 ` Mukesh Pilaniya
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