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From: Ken Chen <kenchen@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: busted CFS group load balancer?
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:33:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b040c32a0811172333k5a89ccfy6438bf66d32dca5d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1226985548.29743.6.camel@lappy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Note that with larger cpu count and/or lower group weight we'll quickly
> run into numerical trouble...
>
> I would recommend trying this with the minimum weight in the order of
> 8-16 times number of cpus on your system.
>
> There is only so much one can do with 10 bit fixed precision math :/

That is probably one of the many problems.  I also found that the
updates to the per-cpu task_group's sched_entity load weight
(tg->se[cpu]->load.weight) is very problematic and very erratic.

The total rq_weight is calculated at one beginning of tg_shares_up(),

        for_each_cpu_mask(i, sd->span) {
                rq_weight += tg->cfs_rq[i]->load.weight;
                shares += tg->cfs_rq[i]->shares;
        }

However, the scaling of per-cpu se->load.weight in function
__update_group_shares_cpu() takes another lookup of
tg->cfs_rq[cpu]->load.weight at a different time.
cfs_rq[cpu].load.weight aren't always consistent across these two
times.  Due to these inconsistency of value taken on per cpu cfs_rq,
I've see tg->se[cpu]->load.weight jumping all over the place.  In our
environment, the cpu loads are very dynamic.  Process
queuing/dequeuing at high rate.

I'm also very troubled with this calculation in __update_group_shares_cpu():

        shares = (sd_shares * rq_weight) / (sd_rq_weight + 1);

Won't you have rounding problem here?  value 'shares' will gradually
decrease for each iteration of __update_group_shares_cpu()?

- Ken

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-18  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-15  1:14 Ken Chen
2008-11-17 15:37 ` Chris Friesen
2008-11-17 20:04   ` Ken Chen
2008-11-17 21:19     ` Chris Friesen
2008-11-18  5:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-18  7:33         ` Ken Chen [this message]
2008-11-18 12:30           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-18 13:48             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-18 17:27             ` Ken Chen
2008-11-18  7:52     ` Ken Chen

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