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From: "Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas@t-8ch.de>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
Cc: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nicolas Schier <nsc@kernel.org>,
	 linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	 Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/6] kbuild: add "make tools_build" to build userspace tools from tools/
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 22:38:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0fa30a6-9f41-4c9a-a3fb-2634322e2bd1@t-8ch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261011233647.2454648-3-sashal@kernel.org>

On 2026-10-11 19:36:41-0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
(...)

> Assisted-by: LLM
> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
> ---
>  .gitignore            |  5 +++
>  Makefile              |  8 ++++-
>  lib/Kconfig.debug     |  2 ++
>  tools/Kconfig         | 72 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  tools/Makefile.kbuild | 79 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  5 files changed, 165 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>  create mode 100644 tools/Kconfig
>  create mode 100644 tools/Makefile.kbuild

(...)

> diff --git a/tools/Kconfig b/tools/Kconfig
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000000..bf0643b39b86e
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/tools/Kconfig
> @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
> +
> +config TOOLS_BUILD_ABI
> +	def_bool X86_64 || ARM64
> +
> +config TOOLS_BUILD_GLIBC
> +	def_bool $(success,echo '#include <features.h>' | $(CC) $(CLANG_FLAGS) $(USERCFLAGS) -E -dM -x c - | grep -q __GLIBC__)
> +
> +menuconfig TOOLS_BUILD
> +	bool "Build userspace tools from tools/"
> +	depends on CC_CAN_LINK && !UML

Why !UML?

> +	depends on TOOLS_BUILD_ABI && TOOLS_BUILD_GLIBC

These dependencies could be on separate lines, it will reduce churn when
they get modified.

> +	help
> +	  Build the selected programs under tools/ for the target together
> +	  with the kernel, as part of "make all", or alone with
> +	  "make tools_build". Each program is built by its own build system
> +	  into tools-build/ in the object tree. The tools then always match
> +	  the kernel they were built with, and a change that breaks one of
> +	  them shows up in the same build that compiles the kernel.
> +
> +	  This needs a compiler that can link glibc programs for the target,
> +	  and is currently limited to x86_64 and arm64.
> +
> +	  If unsure, say N.

(...)

> diff --git a/tools/Makefile.kbuild b/tools/Makefile.kbuild
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000000..820a2d9a3893b
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/tools/Makefile.kbuild
> @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
> +#
> +# Builds the userspace programs selected in tools/Kconfig for the target.
> +# Invoked by "make tools_build", which "make all" runs when CONFIG_TOOLS_BUILD
> +# is set. Each program is built by its own build system, the way it is built
> +# standalone, into $(objtree)/tools-build/.
> +
> +PHONY := __tools_build
> +__tools_build:
> +
> +include include/config/auto.conf
> +
> +abs_srctree := $(realpath $(srctree))
> +toolsdir := $(abs_srctree)/tools
> +outdir := $(CURDIR)/tools-build
> +
> +# kbuild's state and the user's compiler flags, from the environment or the
> +# command line, would change how these build
> +unexport srctree objtree srcroot VPATH building_out_of_srctree sub_make_done
> +unexport CLANG_FLAGS INSTALL_HDR_PATH O
> +unexport CFLAGS CPPFLAGS LDFLAGS EXTRA_CFLAGS EXTRA_LDFLAGS USERCFLAGS USERLDFLAGS
> +space := $(subst ,, )
> +overrides := $(subst \$(space),\@space@,$(MAKEOVERRIDES))
> +MAKEOVERRIDES := $(subst \@space@,\$(space),$(filter-out O=% CFLAGS=% CPPFLAGS=% \
> +	LDFLAGS=% EXTRA_CFLAGS=% EXTRA_LDFLAGS=% USERCFLAGS=% USERLDFLAGS=%,$(overrides)))
> +
> +# Keep Python's bytecode caches out of the source tree
> +export PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE := 1

This should just be done in the toplevel Makefile IMO.

> +# The compiler CONFIG_CC_CAN_LINK was tested with. The tools take linker
> +# flags from LDFLAGS.
> +tools-cc := $(CC) $(USERCFLAGS) $(KBUILD_USERABI)
> +ifneq ($(USERLDFLAGS),)
> +override LDFLAGS := $(USERLDFLAGS)
> +export LDFLAGS
> +endif

(...)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-11 23:36 [RFC PATCH 0/6] kbuild: build the userspace tools in tools/ with the kernel Sasha Levin
2026-10-11 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] kbuild: factor the userspace ABI flags out into KBUILD_USERABI Sasha Levin
2026-10-13 20:31   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-10-11 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] kbuild: add "make tools_build" to build userspace tools from tools/ Sasha Levin
2026-10-13 20:38   ` Thomas Weißschuh [this message]
2026-10-11 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] tools: build perf in tools_build Sasha Levin
2026-10-12 22:07   ` Ian Rogers
2026-10-13 17:08     ` Sasha Levin
2026-10-13 20:21       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-10-11 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] tools: build kernel selftests " Sasha Levin
2026-10-13 19:29   ` Shuah Khan
2026-10-13 20:41   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-10-11 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] kbuild: build the tools selected in tools/Kconfig as part of "make all" Sasha Levin
2026-10-11 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] Documentation: describe building tools with the kernel Sasha Levin

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