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From: "Nicolai Hähnle" <nhaehnle@gmail.com>
To: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Nicolai Hähnle" <Nicolai.Haehnle@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] locking/ww_mutex: Fix a deadlock affecting ww_mutexes
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:26:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1320ee3-1d68-8ebe-03ab-b491b04b5e6f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161123142525.ns2pkyp4bo2sa5z2@phenom.ffwll.local>

On 23.11.2016 15:25, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 03:03:36PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:25:22PM +0100, Nicolai Hähnle wrote:
>>> @@ -473,7 +476,14 @@ void __sched ww_mutex_unlock(struct ww_mutex *lock)
>>>  	 */
>>>  	mutex_clear_owner(&lock->base);
>>>  #endif
>>> -	__mutex_fastpath_unlock(&lock->base.count, __mutex_unlock_slowpath);
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * A previously _not_ waiting task may acquire the lock via the fast
>>> +	 * path during our unlock. In that case, already waiting tasks may have
>>> +	 * to back off to avoid a deadlock. Wake up all waiters so that they
>>> +	 * can check their acquire context stamp against the new owner.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	__mutex_fastpath_unlock(&lock->base.count,
>>> +				__mutex_unlock_slowpath_wakeall);
>>>  }
>>
>> So doing a wake-all has obvious issues with thundering herd etc.. Also,
>> with the new mutex, you'd not be able to do hand-off, which would
>> introduce starvation cases.
>>
>> Ideally we'd iterate the blocked list and pick the waiter with the
>> earliest stamp, or we'd maintain the list in stamp order instead of
>> FIFO, for ww_mutex.
>
> Not sure we'll win that much, at least I think we still need to wake up
> everyone with earlier stamp than the one of the task that just released
> the lock. Otherwise there's deadlocks. So just cuts the wakeups in half,
> on average.
>
> What we could do is do a handoff-hint with the timestamp of earliest task
> we believe should get the lock. Everyone with a later timestamp that gets
> woken then knows that they definitely have a deadlock situation and need
> to back off (thread 2 in the example).
>
> thread 1 would get woken, and would be able to take the lock, except when
> thread 0 successfully raced it and stole the lock. And anyone else racing
> in with later timestamps would also immediately back off, ensuring
> fairness.

I did consider maintaining stamp order in the waiter list and originally 
decided against it because I just wanted a simple and conservative fix 
to avoid adding new regressions.

Now that a different approach is needed for >= 4.9 anyway mostly due to 
the hand-off logic, I'm reconsidering this.

I do believe we can win a bit by keeping the wait list sorted, if we 
also make sure that waiters don't add themselves in the first place if 
they see that a deadlock situation cannot be avoided.

I will probably want to extend struct mutex_waiter with 
ww_mutex-specific fields to facilitate this (i.e. ctx pointer, perhaps 
stamp as well to reduce pointer-chasing). That should be fine since it 
lives on the stack.

In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if patch #1 could be accepted as-is 
for stable updates to <= 4.8. It fixes a real (if rare) bug, and the 
stampede inefficiency isn't a problem in practice at least for GPU 
applications.

Thanks,
Nicolai

>
> Without thinking it through in detail this is a PI issue, except that we
> replace boosting with wakeup&back-off. Could we perhaps steal something
> from rt mutexes to make it fair&efficient?
> -Daniel
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-24 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23 11:25 Nicolai Hähnle
2016-11-23 11:25 ` [PATCH 2/4] locking/ww_mutex: Remove redundant wakeups in ww_mutex_set_context_slowpath Nicolai Hähnle
2016-11-23 11:25 ` [PATCH 3/4] locking/Documentation: fix a typo Nicolai Hähnle
2016-11-23 11:25 ` [PATCH 4/4] locking/ww_mutex: Fix a comment typo Nicolai Hähnle
2016-11-23 12:50 ` [PATCH 1/4] locking/ww_mutex: Fix a deadlock affecting ww_mutexes Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 13:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-23 13:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 13:11     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 13:33       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2016-11-23 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-23 14:25   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 14:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-24 11:26     ` Nicolai Hähnle [this message]
2016-11-24 11:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-24 11:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-24 11:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-24 12:05             ` Nicolai Hähnle

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