From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E58A1E1E00; Fri, 24 Oct 2025 14:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1761315454; cv=none; b=DrhH6vtL1oDFZPkocOSilWpgNj1PqT5lGTENj8+SXq+h3X3B17EaToV4g06X+ctlSrUbTdX7AITaG1PGMoTWc9U6cMi+9Ch6iSVvKA/nqWCXqdVqtovcEYEhyDdqXoHU7cijOejDIbIt26jykoFtLGefOsNtpqAmRWxdrQkuGA4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1761315454; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Ydi1aT2dMr4B5BaKBUc3yFTYNIR0YpQPCQqOfvnwZZg=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=pyFQOcC/WSxB38ZW44i5LW/MekZS93fetTL2pofbylpEpPb03YaGvyrOlad8ffz7wxVdT9ecuzogWSrKMTbcWLJCuq352Da3s7hKwtflfyrs3SdnRAfgive9yqLjokXjLEprMu0juAIk0TusFAsqm1ZGerDtx65nNOPXfJvC5OU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=pL0WT0KQ; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="pL0WT0KQ" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD95EC4CEF1; Fri, 24 Oct 2025 14:17:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1761315454; bh=Ydi1aT2dMr4B5BaKBUc3yFTYNIR0YpQPCQqOfvnwZZg=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=pL0WT0KQo50WPj8SmgBn6sUVWhguKk2oWlfuNRLomYbA47LmbgyLEx8eom9k/xRKp 19sET7pT3zwwAE6067SZ404DXcO9JKgRqw5oUpj2h4kzj4zzNZs7K9ECaP6+1h1hNI dfBymU2ODF9fRw1hxmNh7kXUyHnC736BCTOFjGsxcCaDvnU9JhR4z8huHtUGYf/ePo qJD5dotMsgwc7ytv9Z7q2438AnsB5LDd9L56QinK1e1T6zVJWVXYkgJv0RNOJr5ac+ a9zY7mBB6Cu8Q+4dZFrYrLalbVWx9VDg6q79l8GKyfSC1+sCMwX5ZRKkMzbLMef9Qk 1JBMdwq4LeRtw== Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 16:17:30 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma-fence: Correct return of dma_fence_driver_name() To: Tvrtko Ursulin Cc: phasta@kernel.org, Sumit Semwal , Gustavo Padovan , =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_K=C3=B6nig?= , linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20251024075019.162351-2-phasta@kernel.org> <11b7a8a5-170f-4815-a8ac-5dba2d8e67a1@igalia.com> <5de88e79575e06c053f2d61f7bb58bf9cf5b556e.camel@mailbox.org> <1d0bbdcf-f4d6-49c0-bbdf-364c2af80868@igalia.com> <89812f66-25a6-4f9e-aa4f-74adbf116db8@kernel.org> <5640fbf1-7b8d-4537-9f1a-b401a7a4934b@igalia.com> <8cba66d2-9608-4a5c-a2af-6cc91f46a49f@kernel.org> From: Danilo Krummrich Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/24/25 3:37 PM, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote: > Good to know. I am coming from the angle that netiquette, at least in the olden > days, used to be that when you join an established thread you don't trim too > much of the context. For the benefit of people joining the thread at that very > point, especially when re-raising an argument which has already been discussed. I see it the opposite way, leaving too much context wastes people's time searching for the actual reply, see also [1]. If someone wants the full context, previously sent mails are always available. [1] https://subspace.kernel.org/etiquette.html#trim-your-quotes-when-replying >> Now, you can argue that you mean "driver has been detached from the fence", >> which means something along the lines of "the driver has no business with the >> fence anymore", but this is not what people think of when they read >> "detached-driver".Okay people. :) Not a big deal, but for you to note: Quite some of your replies I've received recently add text to the quoted parts, in this case the "Okay people. :)". > How about "unknown-driver", would that satisfy you? Honestly, the most accurate thing to say would be "fence-signaled", because that's the actual condition which causes the change.