From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Linus Torvalds' <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"longman@redhat.com" <longman@redhat.com>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
"boqun.feng@gmail.com" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"xinhui.pan@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <xinhui.pan@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Zeng Heng <zengheng4@huawei.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH next 4/5] locking/osq_lock: Optimise per-cpu data accesses.
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:41:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2ab72ad8e28433e852a4081718ec37b@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjbWTbRKDP=Yb9VWBGjSBEGB3dJ0=--+7-4oA2n1=1FKw@mail.gmail.com>
From: Linus Torvalds
> Sent: 30 December 2023 20:41
>
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 12:57, David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >
> > this_cpu_ptr() is rather more expensive than raw_cpu_read() since
> > the latter can use an 'offset from register' (%gs for x86-84).
> >
> > Add a 'self' field to 'struct optimistic_spin_node' that can be
> > read with raw_cpu_read(), initialise on first call.
>
> No, this is horrible.
>
> The problem isn't the "this_cpu_ptr()", it's the rest of the code.
>
> > bool osq_lock(struct optimistic_spin_queue *lock)
> > {
> > - struct optimistic_spin_node *node = this_cpu_ptr(&osq_node);
> > + struct optimistic_spin_node *node = raw_cpu_read(osq_node.self);
>
> No. Both of these are crap.
>
> > struct optimistic_spin_node *prev, *next;
> > int old;
> >
> > - if (unlikely(node->cpu == OSQ_UNLOCKED_VAL))
> > - node->cpu = encode_cpu(smp_processor_id());
> > + if (unlikely(!node)) {
> > + int cpu = encode_cpu(smp_processor_id());
> > + node = decode_cpu(cpu);
> > + node->self = node;
> > + node->cpu = cpu;
> > + }
>
> The proper fix here is to not do that silly
>
> node = this_cpu_ptr(&osq_node);
> ..
> node->next = NULL;
>
> dance at all, but to simply do
>
> this_cpu_write(osq_node.next, NULL);
>
> in the first place. That makes the whole thing just a single store off
> the segment descriptor.
Is the equivalent true (ie offset from fixed register) for all SMP archs?
Or do some have to do something rather more complicated?
> Yes, you'll eventually end up doing that
>
> node = this_cpu_ptr(&osq_node);
For some reason I've had CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT set. I don't remember
setting it, and can't imagine why I might have.
Best guess is it was inherited from the ubuntu .config I started with.
In any case it changes smp_processor_id() into a real function
in order to check that preemption is disabled.
I'd guess something like BUG_ON(!raw_cpu_read(preempt_disable_count))
would be faster and more obvious!
> thing because it then wants to use that raw pointer to do
>
> WRITE_ONCE(prev->next, node);
>
> but that's a separate issue and still does not make it worth it to
> create a pointless self-pointer.
I could claim that loading it is one instruction shorter and that
if the cache line containing 'node' is needed and 'pcpu_hot'
is (unexpectedly) not cached it saves a cache line load.
But I probably won't!
>
> Btw, if you *really* want to solve that separate issue, then make the
> optimistic_spin_node struct not contain the pointers at all, but the
> CPU numbers, and then turn those numbers into the pointers the exact
> same way it does for the "lock->tail" thing, ie doing that whole
>
> prev = decode_cpu(old);
>
> dance. That *may* then result in avoiding turning them into pointers
> at all in some cases.
Don't think so.
Pretty much all the uses need to dereference the next/prev pointers.
> Also, I think that you might want to look into making OSQ_UNLOCKED_VAL
> be -1 instead, and add something like
>
> #define IS_OSQ_UNLOCKED(x) ((int)(x)<0)
I did think about that (but not for these patches).
But it is a lot more dangerous because it absolutely requires
the structure be correctly initialised, not just be all zero.
That might show up some very strange bugs.
> and that would then avoid the +1 / -1 games in encoding/decoding the
> CPU numbers. It causes silly code generated like this:
>
> subl $1, %eax #, cpu_nr
> ...
> cltq
> addq __per_cpu_offset(,%rax,8), %rcx
>
> which seems honestly stupid. The cltq is there for sign-extension,
> which is because all these things are "int", and the "subl" will
> zero-extend to 64-bit, not sign-extend.
Changing all the variables to 'unsigned int' will remove the sign
extension and, after the decrement, gcc will know the high bits
are zero so shouldn't need to zero extend.
> At that point, I think gcc might be able to just generate
>
> addq __per_cpu_offset-8(,%rax,8), %rcx
That would need the decrement to be 64bit.
A quick test failed to make that work.
Probably (as you mentioned in the next email) because gcc
doesn't know that the high bits from atomic_xchg() are zero.
> but honestly, I think it would be nicer to just have decode_cpu() do
>
> unsigned int cpu_nr = encoded_cpu_val;
>
> return per_cpu_ptr(&osq_node, cpu_nr);
>
> and not have the -1/+1 at all.
Unless you can persuade gcc that the high bits from atomic_xchg()
are zero that will require a zero extend.
David
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-31 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-29 20:51 [PATCH next 0/5] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code David Laight
2023-12-29 20:53 ` [PATCH next 1/5] locking/osq_lock: Move the definition of optimistic_spin_node into osf_lock.c David Laight
2023-12-30 1:59 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-29 20:54 ` [PATCH next 2/5] locking/osq_lock: Avoid dirtying the local cpu's 'node' in the osq_lock() fast path David Laight
2023-12-29 20:56 ` [PATCH next 3/5] locking/osq_lock: Clarify osq_wait_next() David Laight
2023-12-29 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-12-30 2:54 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-29 20:57 ` [PATCH next 4/5] locking/osq_lock: Optimise per-cpu data accesses David Laight
2023-12-30 3:08 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-30 11:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-12-30 11:35 ` David Laight
2023-12-31 3:04 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-31 10:36 ` David Laight
2023-12-30 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-12-30 22:47 ` David Laight
2023-12-30 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-12-30 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-12-31 11:56 ` David Laight
2023-12-31 11:41 ` David Laight [this message]
2023-12-29 20:58 ` [PATCH next 5/5] locking/osq_lock: Optimise vcpu_is_preempted() check David Laight
2023-12-30 3:13 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-30 15:57 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-30 22:37 ` David Laight
2023-12-29 22:11 ` [PATCH next 2/5] locking/osq_lock: Avoid dirtying the local cpu's 'node' in the osq_lock() fast path David Laight
2023-12-30 3:20 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-30 15:49 ` David Laight
2024-01-02 18:53 ` Boqun Feng
2024-01-02 23:32 ` David Laight
2023-12-30 19:40 ` [PATCH next 0/5] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code Linus Torvalds
2023-12-30 22:39 ` David Laight
2023-12-31 2:14 ` Waiman Long
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