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Peak throughput is 3MBytes/s. > - ping times can be 17ms are often above 500ms and worst case 22 seconds. > > I suggest deleting the driver as it no longer meets current expectations. > > Former Maintainer Forest Bond is unreachable. > > The staging subsystem needs to focus on drivers that support usable hardware that is available. Newbies can then get the hardware and play around which is fun. > > Please consider that support will remain for years in the longterm kernels. > > Thanks for any response about your thoughts. > > No response will result in a patch for removal in 14 days. Hi Philipp The vt6656_stage USB driver is still widely in use, I still use one on my raspberry pi and usually get me out of trouble when main wireless device fails. I do not see the connection issues that you describe and generally the driver reforms well, Any b/g devices devices in the wireless/staging tree when used with or sharing with newer ones will have connection problems due to the considerable interference. I have not problems with deleting the PCI vt6655_stage driver. Regards Malcolm