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From: "Olaf van der Spek" <olafvdspek@gmail.com>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: "J.R. Mauro" <jrm8005@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Unix sockets via TCP on localhost: is TCP slower?
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:06:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2cc26e40811140106n6d43669bn9525754abd1da877@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <491D3CD5.5020105@cosmosbay.com>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> wrote:
>> I expected the kernel to copy data directly from user-space of the
>> sending process to a kernel buffer of the receiving process, much like
>> UNIX sockets.
>>
>
> localhost uses a standard network device, and whole network stack
> is used, no 'special kludges'. You can add iptables rules, you
> can do trafic shaping, trafic sniffing (tcpdump), limiting
> memory used by all sockets (controlling memory pressure on the
> machine)
>
> Doing what you suggest would slow down AF_INET stack.

Why?

> You probably can expect AF_UNIX to be faster, since this one is really
> special and use shortcuts.
>
> Then, you probably can use shared memory instead of AF_UNIX, or
> pipes (and splice()), or ...
>
> Then you probably can use threads and do zero-copy ;)

Hmm, I'd like to avoid running my web server inside of my database
server process. ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-14  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-12 23:20 Olaf van der Spek
2008-11-13 11:24 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-11-13 19:06   ` Olaf van der Spek
2008-11-13 23:04     ` Chris Friesen
2008-11-14  0:19 ` J.R. Mauro
2008-11-14  0:22   ` David Miller
2008-11-14  0:27     ` J.R. Mauro
2008-11-14  8:51   ` Olaf van der Spek
2008-11-14  8:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-14  9:06       ` Olaf van der Spek [this message]
2008-11-14 13:14         ` J.R. Mauro
2008-11-14  8:56     ` David Miller
2008-11-14  9:09       ` Olaf van der Spek
2008-11-14 10:37         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-11-14 13:17         ` J.R. Mauro
2008-11-14 21:07         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-11-14 22:40           ` Olaf van der Spek

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