From: "Jari Sundell" <sundell.software@gmail.com>
To: "Evgeniy Polyakov" <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: "Nicholas Miell" <nmiell@comcast.net>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@redhat.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Zach Brown" <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism.
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:14:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b3f268590608221214l45bb6ad6meccfba99b89710a0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060822180135.GA30142@2ka.mipt.ru>
On 8/22/06, Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru> wrote:
> > Not to mention the name used causes (at least me) some confusion with BSD's
> > kqueue implementation. Skimming over the patches it actually looks somewhat
> > like kqueue with the more interesting features removed, like the ability to
> > pass the filter changes simultaneously with polling.
>
> I do not understand, what do you mean?
> It is obviously allowed to poll and change kevents at the same time.
Changing kevents are done with a separate system call from polling
afaics, thus every change requires a context switch. This in contrast
to BSD's kqueue which allows user-space to pass the changes when
kevent (polling) is called.
It may also choose to update the filters immediately with the same call.
> > Maybe this is a topic that will singe my fur, but what is wrong with the
> > kqueue API? Will I really have to implement support for yet another event
> > API in my program.
>
> Why did I not implemented it like Solaris did?
> Or FreeBSD did?
> It was designed with features mention on AIO homepage in mind, but not
> to be compatible with some other implementation.
> And why should it be?
If it can be, why should it not be? At least, if you reinvent the
wheel its advantages should be obvious.
Considering that kqueue is available on more popular OSes like darwin
it would ease portability greatly if there was a shared event API.
That is, unless you think there's something fundamentally wrong with
their design.
Your interface:
+asmlinkage long sys_kevent_get_events(int ctl_fd, unsigned int min,
unsigned int max,
+ unsigned int timeout, void __user *buf, unsigned flags);
+asmlinkage long sys_kevent_ctl(int ctl_fd, unsigned int cmd, unsigned
int num, void __user *buf);
BSD's kqueue:
struct kevent {
uintptr_t ident; /* identifier for this event */
short filter; /* filter for event */
u_short flags; /* action flags for kqueue */
u_int fflags; /* filter flag value */
intptr_t data; /* filter data value */
void *udata; /* opaque user data identifier */
};
int kevent(int kq, const struct kevent *changelist, int nchanges,
struct kevent *eventlist, int nevents, const struct timespec
*timeout);
The only thing missing in BSD's kevent is the min/max parameters, the
various filters in kevent_get_events either have equivalent filters or
could be added as extensions. (I didn't look too carefully through
them)
On the other hand, your API lacks the ability to pass changes when
polling, as mentioned above. It would be preferable if the timeout
parameter was either timespec or timeval.
Rakshasa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-22 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-08-17 7:43 ` [take11 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 7:43 ` [take11 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 7:43 ` [take11 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 7:43 ` [take11 3/3] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:19 ` [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:19 ` [take12 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:19 ` [take12 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:19 ` [take12 3/3] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 11:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 11:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-21 11:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-21 12:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 14:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-08-22 18:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 4:36 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22 5:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:37 ` [take12 4/3] kevent: Comment cleanup Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 8:51 ` [take12 1/3] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-08-23 9:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 9:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-23 9:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 7:00 ` [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 7:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 8:17 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 8:23 ` David Miller
2006-08-22 8:59 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 14:59 ` James Morris
2006-08-22 20:00 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 20:36 ` David Miller
2006-08-22 21:13 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 21:25 ` David Miller
2006-08-22 22:58 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 23:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-23 1:51 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-23 6:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 8:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 9:29 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 10:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 19:57 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 20:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 21:13 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 21:37 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-08-22 22:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22 22:17 ` David Miller
2006-08-22 23:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22 22:58 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-22 23:06 ` David Miller
2006-08-23 1:36 ` The Proposed Linux kevent API (was: Re: [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism.) Nicholas Miell
2006-08-23 2:01 ` The Proposed Linux kevent API Howard Chu
2006-08-23 3:31 ` David Miller
2006-08-23 3:47 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-23 4:23 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-23 6:22 ` The Proposed Linux kevent API (was: Re: [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism.) Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 8:01 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-23 18:24 ` The Proposed Linux kevent API Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-22 23:22 ` [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Randy.Dunlap
[not found] ` <b3f268590608220957g43a16d6bmde8a542f8ad8710b@mail.gmail.com>
2006-08-22 17:09 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-22 18:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 19:14 ` Jari Sundell [this message]
2006-08-22 19:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 22:51 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-22 23:11 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-23 0:28 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-23 0:32 ` David Miller
2006-08-23 0:43 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-23 6:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 7:07 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-23 7:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 9:58 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-23 10:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 7:35 ` David Miller
2006-08-23 8:18 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-23 7:43 ` Ian McDonald
2006-08-23 7:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 16:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-23 16:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 8:22 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-23 8:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 9:49 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-23 10:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 10:34 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-23 10:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 12:55 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-23 13:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 11:54 ` [PATCH] kevent_user: remove non-chardev interface Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-22 12:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 12:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-22 12:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 11:55 ` [PATCH] kevent_user: use struct kevent_mring for the page ring Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-22 12:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 11:24 ` [take13 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 11:24 ` [take13 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 11:24 ` [take13 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 11:24 ` [take13 3/3] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 12:51 ` [take13 1/3] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
[not found] ` <20060823132753.GB29056@2ka.mipt.ru>
2006-08-23 13:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-24 20:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-25 5:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 6:20 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-25 6:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 6:58 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-25 7:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 7:01 ` David Miller
2006-08-25 7:13 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.63.0608231313370.8007@alpha.polcom.net>
[not found] ` <20060823122509.GA5744@2ka.mipt.ru>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.63.0608231437170.8007@alpha.polcom.net>
[not found] ` <20060823134227.GC29056@2ka.mipt.ru>
2006-08-23 18:56 ` [take13 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 19:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 9:54 ` [take14 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 9:54 ` [take14 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 9:54 ` [take14 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-25 9:54 ` [take14 3/3] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-27 21:03 ` [take14 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-28 1:57 ` David Miller
2006-08-28 2:11 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-28 2:40 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-28 2:59 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-08-28 11:47 ` Jari Sundell
2006-08-31 7:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-09 16:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-11 5:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 10:14 ` [take15 0/4] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 9:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 10:14 ` [take15 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 10:14 ` [take15 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 10:14 ` [take15 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 10:14 ` [take15 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-05 13:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-06 6:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-05 13:28 ` [take15 1/4] kevent: Core files Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-06 6:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-04 10:24 ` [take15 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 11:55 ` [take16 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 11:55 ` [take16 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 11:55 ` [take16 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 11:55 ` [take16 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 11:55 ` [take16 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 13:40 ` [take16 1/4] kevent: Core files Chase Venters
2006-09-06 13:54 ` Chase Venters
2006-09-06 14:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-06 14:23 ` Chase Venters
2006-09-07 7:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-23 4:35 [take12 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Albert Cahalan
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