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From: Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	ckadabi@codeaurora.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	marc.zyngier@arm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jnair@caviumnetworks.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 17/20] arm64: bp hardening: Allow late CPUs to enable work around
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 12:19:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4705fa2-39aa-9fea-78c4-03ac5eb48a49@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180207103942.GH5862@e103592.cambridge.arm.com>

On 07/02/18 10:39, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 06:28:04PM +0000, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> We defend against branch predictor training based exploits by
>> taking specific actions (based on the CPU model) to invalidate
>> the Branch predictor buffer (BPB). This is implemented by per-CPU
>> ptr, which installs the specific actions for the CPU model.
>>
>> The core code can handle the following cases where:
>>   1) some CPUs doesn't need any work around
>>   2) a CPU can install the work around, when it is brought up,
>>      irrespective of how late that happens.

With the recent patches from Marc to expose this information to KVM
guests, it looks like allowing a late CPU to turn this on is not going
to be a good idea. We unconditionally set the capability even
when we don't need the mitigation. So I am not really sure if
we should go ahead with this patch. I am open to suggestions

Marc,

What do you think ?

>>
>> This concludes that it is safe to bring up a CPU which requires
>> bp hardening defense. However, with the current settings, we
>> reject a late CPU, if none of the active CPUs didn't need it.
> 
> Should this be "[...] reject a late CPU that needs the defense, if none
> of the active CPUs needed it." ?

Thats right. Will fix it.

> 
>>
>> This patch solves issue by changing the flags for the capability
>> to indicate that it is safe for a late CPU to turn up with the
>> capability. This is not sufficient to get things working, as
>> we cannot change the system wide state of the capability established
>> at the kernel boot. So, we "set" the capability unconditionally
>> and make sure that the call backs are only installed for those
>> CPUs which actually needs them. This is done by adding a dummy
>> entry at the end of the list of shared entries, which :
>>   a) Always returns true for matches, to ensure we turn this on.
>>   b) has an empty "cpu_enable" call back, so that we don't take
>>      any action on the CPUs which weren't matched with the real
>>      entries.
>>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
>> Cc: Dave Martin <dave.martin@arm.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>


>> +
>>   static const struct arm64_cpu_capabilities arm64_bp_harden_list[] = {
>>   	{
>>   		CAP_MIDR_RANGE_LIST(arm64_bp_harden_psci_cpus),
>> @@ -268,6 +274,17 @@ static const struct arm64_cpu_capabilities arm64_bp_harden_list[] = {
>>   		CAP_MIDR_ALL_VERSIONS(MIDR_QCOM_FALKOR_V1),
>>   		.cpu_enable = qcom_enable_link_stack_sanitization,
>>   	},
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Always enable the capability to make sure a late CPU can
>> +	 * safely use the BP hardening call backs. Since we use per-CPU
>> +	 * pointers for the call backs, the work around only affects the
>> +	 * CPUs which have some methods installed by any real matching entries
>> +	 * above. As such we don't have any specific cpu_enable() callback
>> +	 * for this entry, as it is just to make sure we always "detect" it.
>> +	 */
>> +	{
>> +		.matches = bp_hardening_always_on,
> 
> This function could simply be called "always_on", since it expresses
> something entirely generic and is static.

Sure, if we still go ahead with this.

> 
>> +	},
> 
> This feels like a bit of a hack: really there is no global on/off
> state for a cap like this: it's truly independent for each cpu.

Yea, I kind of didn't like it, but that does the job ;-).

> 
> OTOH, your code does achieve that, and the comment gives a good
> explanation.
> 
> The alternative would be to add a cap type flag to indicate that
> this cap is purely CPU-local, but it may not be worth it at this
> stage.

Agree. Thats going to make the code a bit more complex than it is already.

Cheers
Suzuki

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-08 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31 18:27 [PATCH v2 00/20] arm64: Rework cpu capabilities handling Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] arm64: capabilities: Update prototype for enable call back Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:37   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 11:23   ` Robin Murphy
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] arm64: capabilities: Move errata work around check on boot CPU Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:37   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 14:47     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] arm64: capabilities: Move errata processing code Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:37   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] arm64: capabilities: Prepare for fine grained capabilities Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:37   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 15:16     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 15:39       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] arm64: capabilities: Add flags to handle the conflicts on late CPU Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 11:31     ` Robin Murphy
2018-02-07 16:53       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] arm64: capabilities: Unify the verification Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 16:56     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] arm64: capabilities: Filter the entries based on a given mask Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 17:01     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] arm64: capabilities: Group handling of features and errata Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 12:10     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 12:12       ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: capabilities: Allow flexibility in scope Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 12:12         ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: capabilities: Group handling of features and errata workarounds Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 16:10         ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: capabilities: Allow flexibility in scope Dave Martin
2018-02-08 16:31           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 17:32             ` Dave Martin
2018-02-09 12:16               ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-09 12:16                 ` [PATCH 1/4] arm64: capabilities: Prepare for grouping features and errata work arounds Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-09 12:16                 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64: capabilities: Split the processing of " Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-09 12:16                 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: capabilities: Allow features based on local CPU scope Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-09 12:16                 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64: capabilities: Group handling of features and errata workarounds Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-09 12:19                   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-09 14:21                 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: capabilities: Allow flexibility in scope Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] arm64: capabilities: Introduce weak features based on local CPU Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] arm64: capabilities: Restrict KPTI detection to boot-time CPUs Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 18:15     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 11:05       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] arm64: capabilities: Add support for features enabled early Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:38   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 18:34     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 11:35       ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 11:43         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] arm64: capabilities: Change scope of VHE to Boot CPU feature Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] arm64: capabilities: Clean up midr range helpers Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] arm64: Add helpers for checking CPU MIDR against a range Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] arm64: capabilities: Add support for checks based on a list of MIDRs Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] arm64: Handle shared capability entries Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 10:53     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 12:01       ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 12:32         ` Robin Murphy
2018-02-09 10:05           ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 12:04   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 12:05     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] arm64: bp hardening: Allow late CPUs to enable work around Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-08 12:19     ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2018-02-08 12:26       ` Marc Zyngier
2018-02-08 16:58         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 17:59           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-08 17:59             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] arm64: Add MIDR encoding for Arm Cortex-A55 and Cortex-A35 Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:39   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] arm64: Delay enabling hardware DBM feature Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:40   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-31 18:28 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] arm64: Add work around for Arm Cortex-A55 Erratum 1024718 Suzuki K Poulose
2018-02-07 10:40   ` Dave Martin

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