From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753410AbcI1SAD (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:00:03 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:41544 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752973AbcI1R7y (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:59:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not decay new task load on first enqueue To: Peter Zijlstra References: <20160923115808.2330-1-matt@codeblueprint.co.uk> <20160928101422.GR5016@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160928111912.GU5016@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Cc: Matt Fleming , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith , Yuyang Du , Vincent Guittot From: Dietmar Eggemann Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 18:59:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160928111912.GU5016@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 28/09/16 12:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:06:43PM +0100, Dietmar Eggemann wrote: >> On 28/09/16 11:14, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:58:08PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote: [...] >> I'm afraid that with accurate timing we will get the same situation that >> we add and subtract the same amount of load (probably 1024 now and not >> 1002 (or less)) to/from cfs_rq->runnable_load_avg for the initial (fork) >> hackbench run. >> After all, it's 'runnable' based. > > The idea was that since we now update rq clock before post_init and then > leave it be, both post_init and enqueue see the exact same timestamp, > and the delta is 0, resulting in no aging. > > Or did I fail to make that happen? No, you're right the task load ages from 1024 (enqueue) to something between 1002 and 1024 in (dequeue) for the initial fork-phase. The call to __update_load_avg() in enqueue_task_fair() is now always done with 'delta = now - sa->last_update_time' equal 0 so we bail out. The following call to __update_load_avg() (from dequeue_task_fair(), or set_next_entity() or even task_tick_fair()) let us enter the 'decayed = 1' path (even for a short runtime (>1us) since the initial value for period_contrib is 1023 and with the initial values of load_avg=1024 and load_sum = 1024*47742 = 48,887,808 (and a runtime < 1001us, so contrib stays 0) we end up decaying load_avg to something between 1002 and 1024.