From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jack Aboutboul <jaboutboul@microsoft.com>,
Sharath George John <sgeorgejohn@microsoft.com>,
Noah Meyerhans <nmeyerhans@microsoft.com>,
Jim Perrin <Jim.Perrin@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6.6 0/3] arm64: Speed up boot with faster linear map creation
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:33:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b56d5ba7-46ba-4a4c-9266-70d7e63530cc@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20e320d2-749a-4379-a236-5dbe3d52b07f@arm.com>
On 17/02/2026 14:43, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 17/02/2026 14:26, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 02:21:30PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>> On 17/02/2026 14:10, Greg KH wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 01:58:36PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>>> On 17/02/2026 13:50, Greg KH wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 01:34:05PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This series is a backport that applies to stable kernel 6.6 (base v6.6.126), for
>>>>>>> some speed ups to enable significantly faster booting on systems with a lot of
>>>>>>> memory. The patches were originally posted at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20240412131908.433043-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... and were originally merged upstream in v6.10-rc1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm requesting this be merged to stable on behalf of a partner who wants to get
>>>>>>> the benefit of this series in Debian 12.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't they just use a newer kernel version (i.e. 6.12)? Surely they
>>>>>> would be able to justify moving to a newer kernel for performance
>>>>>> reasons, why enable them to stay on an older one, just delaying the
>>>>>> inevitable upgrade they will have to do anyway in a year or so?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't answer this presicely, but I did ask and push for that approach. As I
>>>>> understand it, they are stuck with Debian 12, which is stuck with kernel 6.1.
>>>>> The Debian maintainer apparently requested that these go through stable in order
>>>>> to get them into Debian 12.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the position of Debian not wanting to take patches for new
>>>> features that are not already upstream, but really, Debian offers a
>>>> newer kernel for hardware that wants to use it for things like this,
>>>> right? Why not just use that instead?
>>>
>>> Let me go push a bit harder. But I expect we are in the grey zone between bug
>>> and feature here; this is a performance bug fix, not a new feature. By
>>> selectively backporting I'm guessing they are avoiding the risk of new features
>>> that a new kernel brings introducing new bugs? I'm guessing there is a higher
>>> qualification bar for that.
>>
>> That's a broken "qualification system" if that is the case, given that
>> the patches that flow back into stable kernel releases should be
>> triggering "full qualification" if anyone actually paid attention to
>> what goes into there :)
>>
>> Anyway, good luck! And same for 6.1.y, if they are ok with 6.6.y, why
>> would they even care about 6.1.y?
>
> The request was only for 6.1. I did 6.6 as well for continuity; I didn't want it
> to get slow again if they moved from 6.1 to 6.6. It's already fixed in 6.12.
Hi Greg,
I thought a bit more about this overnight, and decided I wanted to have one more
go at convincing you...
In case you didn't read the commit logs, this series fixes a pretty nasty
performace bug; for a machine with 512G of RAM, it previously took 17.5 seconds
to create the linear map, and with the changes, it's down to 1.2 seconds. That's
quite a big quality-of-life improvement if you are booting VMs regularly.
(personally I hit this quite a bit).
It's a low risk change - it's been in since v6.10 and is part of arm64's core
boot path - and no issues have ever been raised.
Are you sure this isn't the sort of change that should be considered for stable?
Thanks,
Ryan
>
>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> greg k-h
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-18 9:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-17 13:34 Ryan Roberts
2026-02-17 13:34 ` [PATCH 6.6 1/3] arm64: mm: Don't remap pgtables per-cont(pte|pmd) block Ryan Roberts
2026-02-17 13:34 ` [PATCH 6.6 2/3] arm64: mm: Batch dsb and isb when populating pgtables Ryan Roberts
2026-02-17 13:34 ` [PATCH 6.6 3/3] arm64: mm: Don't remap pgtables for allocate vs populate Ryan Roberts
2026-02-17 13:50 ` [PATCH 6.6 0/3] arm64: Speed up boot with faster linear map creation Greg KH
2026-02-17 13:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-02-17 14:10 ` Greg KH
2026-02-17 14:21 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-02-17 14:26 ` Greg KH
2026-02-17 14:43 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-02-18 9:33 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2026-02-17 14:27 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2026-02-18 19:49 ` Noah Meyerhans
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