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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Linus Torvalds' <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 5/5] minmax: Relax check to allow comparison between int and small unsigned constants.
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:04:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5cf056d6e9a4c74a35733681eb22fe6@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiU=euKEQOzgdQqTAekJgHMMTtqMwdAw=mGkcGoR9ChEw@mail.gmail.com>

From: Linus Torvalds
> Sent: 10 August 2023 20:47
> 
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 at 01:29, David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Does that expression mean "give me a number 0..20" or "MININT..20"?
> >
> > Why does the lower bound of any type matter?
> 
> Because it might actually be the upper bound.
> 
> That MININT becomes be 20 if it's unsigned, and you do min() on it.
> 
> Bugs when mixing unsigned and signed comparisons is WHY WE HAVE THE
> TYPE CHECK IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Have you considered patches 1 to 3 and maybe 4?
These still disallow signed v unsigned compares but don't worry
about the actual types involved.

All your objections seen to be to patch 5.

> And no, constants don't necessarily make that any different.
> 
> I think we all agree that using a (signed) constant 20 makes perfect
> sense when the other side is an unsigned entity. It may be "signed",
> but when the value is positive, we don't care.
> 
> But using an *unsigned* constant 20 when the other side is signed
> means that now somebody is confused. We should warn.

In that case maybe I can add an is_signed() check into the constant
test.
The will allow min(unsigned_var, 20) but disallow min(signed_var, 20u).

I might simplify things by limiting the checks on the 'backwards'
compare of min(constant, variable).
(They almost need a warning...)

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-14  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-04 10:50 [PATCH next v3 0/5] minmax: Relax type checks in min() and max() David Laight
2023-08-04 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] minmax: Add min_unsigned(a, b) and max_unsigned(a, b) David Laight
2023-08-04 10:54 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] minmax: Allow min()/max()/clamp() if the arguments have the same signedness David Laight
2023-08-04 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] minmax: Fix indentation of __cmp_once() and __clamp_once() David Laight
2023-08-04 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] minmax: Allow comparisons of 'int' against 'unsigned char/short' David Laight
2023-08-04 10:56 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] minmax: Relax check to allow comparison between int and small unsigned constants David Laight
2023-08-04 18:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-07 10:50     ` David Laight
2023-08-07 15:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10  8:29         ` David Laight
2023-08-10 19:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-14  8:04             ` David Laight [this message]
2023-08-14 14:51             ` David Laight
2023-08-14 15:29               ` David Laight
2023-08-14 21:21 ` [PATCH next v3 0/5] minmax: Relax type checks in min() and max() Kees Cook
2023-08-15  8:55   ` David Laight
2023-08-21 18:24     ` Kees Cook
2023-08-22 17:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-23  8:42         ` David Laight
2023-08-23  8:52       ` David Laight
2023-08-23 15:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-24  9:05           ` David Laight

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