From: "Dmitry Adamushko" <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: "Peter Williams" <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v12
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 13:52:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0705220452n711a8d1dtdf4cad07a01c8b64@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46523081.6050007@bigpond.net.au>
On 22/05/07, Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > [...]
> > Hum.. I guess, a 0/4 scenario wouldn't fit well in this explanation..
>
> No, and I haven't seen one.
Well, I just took one of your calculated probabilities as something
you have really observed - (*) below.
"The probabilities for the 3 split possibilities for random allocation are:
2/2 (the desired outcome) is 3/8 likely,
1/3 is 4/8 likely, and
0/4 is 1/8 likely. <-------------------------- (*)
"
> The split that I see is 3/1 and neither CPU seems to be favoured with
> respect to getting the majority. However, top, gkrellm and X seem to be
> always on the CPU with the single spinner. The CPU% reported by top is
> approx. 33%, 33%, 33% and 100% for the spinners.
Yes. That said, idle_balance() is out of work in this case.
> If I renice the spinners to -10 (so that there load weights dominate the
> run queue load calculations) the problem goes away and the spinner to
> CPU allocation is 2/2 and top reports them all getting approx. 50% each.
I wonder what would happen if X gets reniced to -10 instead (and
spinners are at 0).. I guess, something I described in my previous
mail (and dubbed "unlikely cospiracy" :) could happen, i.e. 0/4 and
then idle_balance() comes into play..
ok, I see. You have probably achieved a similar effect with the
spinners being reniced to 10 (but here both "X" and "top" gain
additional "weight" wrt the load balancing).
> I'm playing with some jitter experiments at the moment. The amount of
> jitter needs to be small (a few tenths of a second) as the
> synchronization (if it's happening) is happening at the seconds level as
> the intervals for top and gkrellm will be in the 1 to 5 second range (I
> guess -- I haven't checked) and the load balancing is every 60 seconds.
Hum.. the "every 60 seconds" part puzzles me quite a bit. Looking at
the run_rebalance_domain(), I'd say that it's normally overwritten by
the following code
if (time_after(next_balance, sd->last_balance + interval))
next_balance = sd->last_balance + interval;
the "interval" seems to be *normally* shorter than "60*HZ" (according
to the default params in topology.h).. moreover, in case of the CFS
if (interval > HZ*NR_CPUS/10)
interval = HZ*NR_CPUS/10;
so it can't be > 0.2 HZ in your case (== once in 200 ms at max with
HZ=1000).. am I missing something? TIA
>
> Peter
--
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-22 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-13 15:38 Ingo Molnar
2007-05-16 2:04 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-16 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-16 23:42 ` Peter Williams
[not found] ` <20070516063625.GA9058@elte.hu>
2007-05-17 23:45 ` Peter Williams
[not found] ` <20070518071325.GB28702@elte.hu>
2007-05-18 13:11 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-18 13:26 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-19 13:27 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-05-20 1:41 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-21 8:29 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21 8:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-21 12:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 16:48 ` Chris Friesen
2007-05-22 20:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:49 ` Chris Friesen
2007-05-21 15:25 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-05-21 23:51 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-22 4:47 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-22 12:03 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-24 7:43 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-24 16:45 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-24 23:23 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-29 20:45 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-29 23:54 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-30 0:50 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-30 2:18 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-30 4:42 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-30 6:28 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-31 1:49 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-22 11:52 ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2007-05-23 0:10 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-18 0:18 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-18 1:01 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-18 4:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-18 7:31 ` Ingo Molnar
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