From: Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, travis@sgi.com, mingo@redhat.com,
davej@redhat.com, cpufreq@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:44:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0902050944m40d69bc6m3b031b7a0ea80c7c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090204134823.8eefa728.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2009/2/4 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:35:19 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
>>
>> * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> > mm/pdflush.c:
>> >
>> > wtf what the heck is all that stuff and who added it? weird.
>> >
>> > Leave it alone I guess. Can admins manually move kernel threads to
>> > other CPUs?
>>
>> they can - and there's even tools that do that (there's some -rt tools where
>> you can put kernel thread priorities into a config file).
>>
>
> Oh well, DontDoThatThen.
>
> I expect that the same argument applies to most of the set_cpus_allowed()
> callsites - they're run by root-only code. Sure, root can (with
> careful timing) move root's own thread onto the wrong CPU in the middle
> of microcode loading. In which case root gets to own both pieces.
Another issue is that those set_cpus_allowed() callsites may
effectivelly cancel the effect of sched_setaffinity() being run by an
administrator in parallel with a target process calling e.g.
cpufreq_get(0)
[ there are a couple of callsites in drivers/{video,pcmcia}, possibly
running in a process context for which sched_setaffinity() with mask
!= 'all_cpus_set' may be legitimate from admin's POV :-) ]
iow, not all use-cases are so obvious (like microcode) to fall into
the category of "didn't you know that this action could do some
unsynchronized cpu-mask-fiddling work behind your back". Not to say
that the existence of sych category is wrong, imho.
(regarding microcode)
> This code is just nuts. What's the point in pinning itself to > a CPU for the act of loading the microcode into main
> memory? It's only
> the loading of the microcode which should care about
> which CPU
> executes the code. ie: apply_microcode().
Well, basically I tried to preserve the existing mechanisms/schemes as
much as possible when reworking this code and yes, I'm the person to
be blamed for this 'nuts' code.
> The code needs some laundering, switch to >schedule_work_on().
I had a patch doing exactly this but then there were other concerns
with the 'schedule_work_on()' approach
(e.g. http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2008-08/msg02827.html)
then I had another idea (run it from start_secondary() or something
like this), but I never managed to look at this issue again
(and noone else seemed to care about really running "it as early as
possible" ;-)
In any case, it should be fixable one way or another.
> Ensure that the callback functions don't take >microcode_mutex.
yes, these actually look redundant in cpu-hotplug paths (other callers
call get/put_online_cpus() so this part should be ok).
Will fix. Thanks for your comments!
--
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-05 17:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26 7:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 18:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 0:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27 0:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 7:15 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 7:05 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 7:25 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28 13:02 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 1:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29 2:12 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 6:03 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 6:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03 4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 2:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 3:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44 ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2009-02-10 8:54 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-11 0:32 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26 ` Ingo Molnar
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