From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
Cc: Justin Tee <justin.tee@broadcom.com>,
Naresh Gottumukkala <nareshgottumukkala83@gmail.com>,
Paul Ely <paul.ely@broadcom.com>,
Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
Aaron Dailey <adailey@purestorage.com>,
Randy Jennings <randyj@purestorage.com>,
Dhaval Giani <dgiani@purestorage.com>,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 01:34:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b695a3f5-bfb9-4215-9672-47abf7e35cdf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260203181457.GA3729-mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
On 2/3/26 19:14, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> On Tue 2026-02-03 04:03:22 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> On 1/30/26 23:34, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
>>> TP8028 Rapid Path Failure Recovery defined new fields in controller
>>> identify response. The newly defined fields are:
>>>
>>> - CIU (Controller Instance UNIQUIFIER): is an 8bit non-zero value that
>>> is assigned a random value when controller first created. The value is
>>> expected to be incremented when RDY bit in CSTS register is asserted
>>> - CIRN (Controller Instance Random Number): is 64bit random value that
>>> gets generated when controller is crated. CIRN is regenerated everytime
>>> RDY bit is CSTS register is asserted.
>>> - CCRL (Cross-Controller Reset Limit) is an 8bit value that defines the
>>> maximum number of in-progress controller reset operations. CCRL is
>>> hardcoded to 4 as recommended by TP8028.
>>>
>>> TP4129 KATO Corrections and Clarifications defined CQT (Command Quiesce
>>> Time) which is used along with KATO (Keep Alive Timeout) to set an upper
>>> time limit for attempting Cross-Controller Recovery. For NVME subsystem
>>> CQT is set to 0 by default to keep the current behavior. The value can
>>> be set from configfs if needed.
>>>
>>> Make the new fields available for IO controllers only since TP8028 is
>>> not very useful for discovery controllers.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/nvme/target/admin-cmd.c | 6 ++++++
>>> drivers/nvme/target/configfs.c | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> drivers/nvme/target/core.c | 12 ++++++++++++
>>> drivers/nvme/target/nvmet.h | 4 ++++
>>> include/linux/nvme.h | 15 ++++++++++++---
>>> 5 files changed, 65 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/nvme/target/admin-cmd.c b/drivers/nvme/target/admin-cmd.c
>>> index 3da31bb1183e..ade1145df72d 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/nvme/target/admin-cmd.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/nvme/target/admin-cmd.c
>>> @@ -696,6 +696,12 @@ static void nvmet_execute_identify_ctrl(struct nvmet_req *req)
>>>
>>> id->cntlid = cpu_to_le16(ctrl->cntlid);
>>> id->ver = cpu_to_le32(ctrl->subsys->ver);
>>> + if (!nvmet_is_disc_subsys(ctrl->subsys)) {
>>> + id->cqt = cpu_to_le16(ctrl->cqt);
>>> + id->ciu = ctrl->ciu;
>>> + id->cirn = cpu_to_le64(ctrl->cirn);
>>> + id->ccrl = NVMF_CCR_LIMIT;
>>> + }
>>>
>>> /* XXX: figure out what to do about RTD3R/RTD3 */
>>> id->oaes = cpu_to_le32(NVMET_AEN_CFG_OPTIONAL);
>>> diff --git a/drivers/nvme/target/configfs.c b/drivers/nvme/target/configfs.c
>>> index e44ef69dffc2..035f6e75a818 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/nvme/target/configfs.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/nvme/target/configfs.c
>>> @@ -1636,6 +1636,36 @@ static ssize_t nvmet_subsys_attr_pi_enable_store(struct config_item *item,
>>> CONFIGFS_ATTR(nvmet_subsys_, attr_pi_enable);
>>> #endif
>>>
>>> +static ssize_t nvmet_subsys_attr_cqt_show(struct config_item *item,
>>> + char *page)
>>> +{
>>> + return snprintf(page, PAGE_SIZE, "%u\n", to_subsys(item)->cqt);
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static ssize_t nvmet_subsys_attr_cqt_store(struct config_item *item,
>>> + const char *page, size_t cnt)
>>> +{
>>> + struct nvmet_subsys *subsys = to_subsys(item);
>>> + struct nvmet_ctrl *ctrl;
>>> + u16 cqt;
>>> +
>>> + if (sscanf(page, "%hu\n", &cqt) != 1)
>>> + return -EINVAL;
>>> +
>>> + down_write(&nvmet_config_sem);
>>> + if (subsys->cqt == cqt)
>>> + goto out;
>>> +
>>> + subsys->cqt = cqt;
>>> + /* Force reconnect */
>>> + list_for_each_entry(ctrl, &subsys->ctrls, subsys_entry)
>>> + ctrl->ops->delete_ctrl(ctrl);
>>> +out:
>>> + up_write(&nvmet_config_sem);
>>> + return cnt;
>>> +}
>>> +CONFIGFS_ATTR(nvmet_subsys_, attr_cqt);
>>> +
>>> static ssize_t nvmet_subsys_attr_qid_max_show(struct config_item *item,
>>> char *page)
>>> {
>>> @@ -1676,6 +1706,7 @@ static struct configfs_attribute *nvmet_subsys_attrs[] = {
>>> &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_vendor_id,
>>> &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_subsys_vendor_id,
>>> &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_model,
>>> + &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_cqt,
>>> &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_qid_max,
>>> &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_ieee_oui,
>>> &nvmet_subsys_attr_attr_firmware,
>>
>> I do think that TP8028 (ie the CQT defintions) are somewhat independent
>> on CCR. So I'm not sure if they should be integrated in this patchset;
>> personally I would prefer to have it moved to another patchset.
>
> Agreed that CQT is not directly related to CCR from the target
> perspective. But there is a relationship when it comes to how the
> initiator uses CQT to calculate the time budget for CCR. As you know on
> the host side if CCR fails and CQT is supported the requests needs to be
> held for certain amount of time before they are retried. So CQT value is
> needed and that I why I included it in this patchset.
>
Oh, I don't disagree that CQT is needed to get full spec compliance.
But my point here is that there is no requirement that we need to
achieve full spec compliance _with this patchset_.
We are not compliant with the current implementation, and we don't
lose anything if we stay non-compliant after this patch.
From my POV CCR is about resetting controllers and aborting commands,
and CQT is about inserting a delay before retrying commands.
And there is no dependency between those two; you can send CCR
without inserting a delay before retrying, and you can insert a
delay before retrying commands without having sent CCR.
So we should have two patchsets here. And of course, the
CQT patchset should be based on the CCR patchset.
But there is no requirements to have both in a single patchset.
>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/nvme/target/core.c b/drivers/nvme/target/core.c
>>> index cc88e5a28c8a..0d2a1206e08f 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/nvme/target/core.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/nvme/target/core.c
>>> @@ -1393,6 +1393,10 @@ static void nvmet_start_ctrl(struct nvmet_ctrl *ctrl)
>>> return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> + if (!nvmet_is_disc_subsys(ctrl->subsys)) {
>>> + ctrl->ciu = ((u8)(ctrl->ciu + 1)) ? : 1;
>>> + ctrl->cirn = get_random_u64();
>>> + }
>>> ctrl->csts = NVME_CSTS_RDY;
>>>
>>> /*
>>> @@ -1661,6 +1665,12 @@ struct nvmet_ctrl *nvmet_alloc_ctrl(struct nvmet_alloc_ctrl_args *args)
>>> }
>>> ctrl->cntlid = ret;
>>>
>>> + if (!nvmet_is_disc_subsys(ctrl->subsys)) {
>>> + ctrl->cqt = subsys->cqt;
>>> + ctrl->ciu = get_random_u8() ? : 1;
>>> + ctrl->cirn = get_random_u64();
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> /*
>>> * Discovery controllers may use some arbitrary high value
>>> * in order to cleanup stale discovery sessions
>>> @@ -1853,10 +1863,12 @@ struct nvmet_subsys *nvmet_subsys_alloc(const char *subsysnqn,
>>>
>>> switch (type) {
>>> case NVME_NQN_NVME:
>>> + subsys->cqt = NVMF_CQT_MS;
>>> subsys->max_qid = NVMET_NR_QUEUES;
>>> break;
>>
>> And I would not set the CQT default here.
>> Thing is, implementing CQT to the letter would inflict a CQT delay
>> during failover for _every_ installation, thereby resulting in a
>> regression to previous implementations where we would fail over
>> with _no_ delay.
>> So again, we should make it a different patchset.
>
> CQT defaults to 0 to avoid introducing surprise delay. The initiator will
> skip holding requests if it sees CQT set to 0.
Precisely my point. If CQT defaults to zero no delay will be inserted,
but we _still_ have CCR handling. Just proving that both really are
independent on each other. Hence I would prefer to have two patchsets.
Cheers,
Hannes
--
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-30 22:34 [PATCH v2 00/14] TP8028 Rapid Path Failure Recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:14 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:34 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2026-02-07 13:41 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-14 0:42 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-14 3:56 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] nvmet/debugfs: Add ctrl uniquifier and random values Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:47 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 0:50 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 1:02 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] nvmet: Implement CCR nvme command Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:40 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 0:44 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 17:52 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-07 13:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-08 23:10 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 19:27 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 1:34 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-07 14:11 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] nvmet: Implement CCR logpage Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:11 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 1:49 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] nvmet: Send an AEN on CCR completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:48 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:12 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 1:52 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] nvme: Rapid Path Failure Recovery read controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:13 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 1:56 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] nvme: Introduce FENCING and FENCED controller states Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:07 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 19:13 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:00 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 1:10 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 23:24 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 3:44 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 15:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:09 ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:27 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-10 22:49 ` James Smart
2026-02-10 23:25 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 0:12 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 3:33 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:07 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] nvme-tcp: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:34 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:24 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:48 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-04 2:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 1:39 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] nvme-rdma: " Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] nvme-fc: Decouple error recovery from controller reset Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:40 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:29 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 19:19 ` James Smart
2026-02-03 22:49 ` James Smart
2026-02-04 0:15 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:11 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-05 0:08 ` James Smart
2026-02-05 0:59 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 22:53 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] nvme-fc: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:12 ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:20 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-13 19:29 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] nvme-fc: Hold inflight requests while in FENCING state Mohamed Khalfella
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