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From: Vidya Sagar <vidyas@nvidia.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, bhelgaas@google.com
Cc: alex.williamson@redhat.com, treding@nvidia.com,
	jonathanh@nvidia.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vsethi@nvidia.com,
	kthota@nvidia.com, mmaddireddy@nvidia.com, sagar.tv@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] PCI: pciehp: Disable ACS Source Validation during hot-remove
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:57:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b746288b-32f0-4f08-8c9a-6adbe195d429@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7345c2d2-5446-49a6-9ceb-0f1b9ee4ec18@nvidia.com>

Hi Lucas/Bjorn, any thoughts on this?

On 1/11/2024 7:14 PM, Vidya Sagar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/8/2024 7:49 PM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 08:01:06PM +0530, Vidya Sagar wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2023 1:29 AM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
>>>> As an alternative to disabling ACS, have you explored masking ACS
>>>> Violations (PCI_ERR_UNC_ACSV) upon de-enumeration of a device and
>>>> unmasking them after assignment of a bus number?
>>>
>>> I explored this option and it seemed to work as expected. But, the issue
>>> is that this works only if the AER registers are owned by the OS. If the
>>> AER registers are owned by the firmware (i.e. Firmware-First approach of
>>> handling the errors), OS is not supposed to access the AER registers and
>>> there is no indication from the OS to the firmware as to when the
>>> enumeration is completed and time is apt to unmask the ACSViolation
>>> errors in the AER's Uncorrectable Error Mask register.
>>> Any thoughts on accommodating the Firmware-First approach also?
>>
>> Are you actually using firmware-controlled AER or is it a theoretical
>> question?
> Yes. We indeed have a system with Firmware-Controlled AER.
> 
>>
>> PCI Firmware Spec r3.3 sec 4.6.12 talks about a _DSM to disable DPC
>> on surprise-hotplug-capable ports.  Maybe that would be an option?
> It looks like this _DSM is totally dependent on the port having SFI
> capability implemented and unfortunately our system doesn't have
> SFI implemented.
> 
>>
>> BTW what happens if the system resumes from sleep and a device in
>> a hotplug-capable port doesn't have a bus number configured yet
>> (because it's been powered off and is now in D0uninitialized state)?
> Theoretically the answer seems to be yes, but, since the platform we
> have is a server platform, there is no support for sleep and resume on
> this platform and hence can't really confirm this behavior though.
> 
>> Could the ACS Violations then occur as well?  Do we have to mask
>> ACS Violations *generally* on Root Ports and Downstream Ports when
>> going to system sleep and unmask them after setting a bus number
>> in the attached device on resume?  And I suppose that would not
>> only be necessary for hotplug ports?
> Again, how to do that in a system where AER is not handled natively in
> the OS? AFAIU, there is no mechanism for the OS to inform about the time
> it updates the bus number.
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lukas

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-18  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-11 14:52 [PATCH V1] " Vidya Sagar
2023-01-11 17:11 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-11 17:11 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-11 19:05 ` [PATCH V2] " Vidya Sagar
2023-02-14 23:30   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-07-30 19:14     ` Vidya Sagar
2023-07-30 19:15   ` [PATCH V3] " Vidya Sagar
2023-07-30 19:40     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-07-30 20:02       ` Vidya Sagar
2023-07-31 19:59         ` Lukas Wunner
2023-08-02  0:19           ` Dan Williams
2024-01-04 14:31           ` Vidya Sagar
2024-01-08 14:19             ` Lukas Wunner
2024-01-11 13:44               ` Vidya Sagar
2024-01-18  2:27                 ` Vidya Sagar [this message]
2024-01-18 10:33                 ` Lukas Wunner

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