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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] rust: helpers: Add list helpers for C linked list operations
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2025 14:44:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b79fc5fe-3682-4439-b669-663e234943b5@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7627f224-5fe9-456d-8981-8b3799e332e1@nvidia.com>

On 11/28/25 1:49 PM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On 11/27/2025 8:46 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> On Thu Nov 27, 2025 at 2:10 PM JST, Joel Fernandes wrote:
...
>> There is also at least one precedent: the Rust `page_align()` does not
>> call a C helper that wraps `PAGE_ALIGN()`, it just reimplements it. I
>> think `list_head` is a quite similar situation, but ultimately that's
>> for the core team to say.
> 
> I don't think a one size/rule fits all will apply for this. We need carefully do

Case-by-case is certainly a good way to evaluate these things, yes.

> it on a case-by-case basis, for example - if we implement list_add directly in
> rust, we'd miss out on CONFIG_LIST_HARDENED. So for that, I will still use the
> bindings. For INIT_LIST_HEAD and iteration, it should be Ok, though. So I'll add
> that directly in Rust without bindings.

Here, I'm not so sure that even this case is a solid one. Because
CONFIG_LIST_HARDENED is a way for C code to help protect against
list corruption--which is generally going to come from the C side,
not the Rust side, for the most part.

Let the C code have its extra checks, but on the Rust side we can
either add them, or skip them--but I don't think we need to *invoke*
them via the C code.



thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-29 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-11 17:13 Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] rust: clist: Add basic list infrastructure and head iterator Joel Fernandes
2025-11-24  3:47   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-25 23:03     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-25 23:06     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-28 18:39   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-11-11 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] rust: clist: Add typed iteration with FromListHead trait Joel Fernandes
2025-11-24  7:01   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-25 23:29     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-26  1:03       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-26 20:14         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-27  3:43           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-27  5:08             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] rust: Introduce support for C linked list interfacing Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 19:54   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-11-11 21:52     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-25 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] rust: helpers: Add list helpers for C linked list operations Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-25 18:16   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-25 19:48     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-25 22:52       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-26  1:16     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-26  1:39       ` John Hubbard
2025-11-26 10:06         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-11-26 18:15           ` John Hubbard
2025-11-26 18:50       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-26 20:57         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-27  5:10           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-27 13:46             ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-28 21:49               ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-29 22:44                 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2025-11-30  1:04                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-28 18:20           ` Daniel Almeida
2025-11-28 18:17       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-12-03  3:30         ` Alexandre Courbot

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