From: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
To: Zak Brighton Knight <zakbrightonknight@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@kernel.org>,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] reboot: fail run_cmd() before init so hw protection can force the action
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 09:20:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7a634b8-b837-4e3a-968a-8389db89b642@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261107143129.875202-1-zakbrightonknight@gmail.com>
On 07/11/2026 16:31, Zak Brighton Knight wrote:
> __hw_protection_trigger() asks userspace to power off through
> orderly_poweroff(). It only forces the power-off when running
> poweroff_cmd fails. run_cmd() waits for the exec only (UMH_WAIT_EXEC)
> so a successful exec counts as a started shutdown.
>
> Before init has started that exec can succeed and do nothing. Usermode
> helpers are enabled at rootfs_initcall and wait for the initramfs to
> be unpacked. So a built-in driver that triggers during device
> initcalls runs the initramfs copy of /sbin/poweroff. On a
> dracut/systemd initramfs that is systemctl. It finds /proc not mounted
> and decides it is in a chroot. It logs "Running in chroot, ignoring
> request." and exits 0. Nobody sees the message because a usermode
> helper starts with no stdout or stderr. The default
> CONFIG_THERMAL_EMERGENCY_POWEROFF_DELAY_MS=0 arms no backup timer. The
> one-shot latch in __hw_protection_trigger() then makes the kernel
> ignore every later request. The machine runs without its critical
> temperature protection until the next boot.
>
> I hit this on a ThinkPad T520 running Fedora's 7.2.15 kernel, booted
> while still hot from a long memtest run. The ACPI zone read 101 C
> against a 100 C _CRT 0.29 s into boot. The kernel logged "HARDWARE
> PROTECTION shutdown (Temperature too high)" and the machine kept
> running for 90 minutes.
>
> It reproduces in QEMU with Fedora's 7.2.13 kernel and with current
> tip. The test uses an SSDT thermal zone whose _TMP is above its _CRT
> and an initramfs with Fedora's systemctl as /sbin/poweroff.
> hw_protection=reboot fails the same way. Setting
> sysctl.kernel.poweroff_cmd on the command line does not help either
> because do_sysctl_args() runs after the initcalls.
>
> Make run_cmd() fail with -EBUSY until system_state reaches
> SYSTEM_RUNNING. Both callers then take the fallback they already have.
> __orderly_poweroff(true) syncs and powers off. __orderly_reboot()
> syncs and restarts.
>
> Firmware that reports a bogus critical temperature only during early
> boot used to get away with it. Such a machine will now power off at
> boot, as it already does when the same reading comes after init has
> started.
>
> A short window remains between SYSTEM_RUNNING and init being ready to
> handle the request. A non-zero CONFIG_THERMAL_EMERGENCY_POWEROFF_DELAY_MS
> still covers that.
>
> An AI coding assistant (Claude by Anthropic) helped find the cause,
> build the reproducer and draft this patch.
>
> Fixes: 10a0a8d4e3f6 ("Add common orderly_poweroff()")
> Signed-off-by: Zak Brighton Knight <zakbrightonknight@gmail.com>
Reviewed-by: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
Yours,
-- Matti
--
Matti Vaittinen
Linux kernel developer at ROHM Semiconductors
Oulu Finland
~~ When things go utterly wrong vim users can always type :help! ~~
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-09 7:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-07 14:31 Zak Brighton Knight
2026-11-07 15:13 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-11-09 7:01 ` Andrew Morton
2026-11-09 7:20 ` Matti Vaittinen [this message]
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