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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 7/9] drivers/base/memory: count inherited poisoned frames into the block
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:51:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8ad366a-a019-4462-9dce-f687f60ee7f2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqpczrtIwSG948iv@gmail.com>

On 9/16/26 11:35, Breno Leitao wrote:
> Hello David,
> 
> First of all, thanks for your time looking at this patchset.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 08:48:56AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 9/15/26 14:53, Breno Leitao wrote:
>>> +static void memblk_nr_poison_init(struct memory_block *mem)
>>> +{
>>> +	unsigned long pfn = section_nr_to_pfn(mem->start_section_nr);
>>> +	unsigned long nr_pages = PAGES_PER_SECTION * sections_per_block;
>>> +	unsigned long i, nr_poison = 0;
>>> +
>>> +	/* A hotplugged block is created before its pages are online. */
>>> +	if (mem->state != MEM_ONLINE)
>>> +		return;
>>> +
>>> +	if (!range_contains_poisoned_memory(PFN_PHYS(pfn),
>>> +					    nr_pages << PAGE_SHIFT))
>>> +		return;
>>> +
>>> +	for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
>>> +		struct page *page = pfn_to_online_page(pfn + i);
>>> +
>>> +		if (page && PageHWPoison(page))
>>> +			nr_poison++;
>>> +	}
>>
>> That just slows down boot unnecessarily on 99.9999999999999999999% of all
>> systems out there.
> 
> hmmm, I am not sure I see it that way.
> 
> The loop only runs for a block the bitmap marks. On a machine with nothing
> recorded the bitmap is all zeros, the range_contains_poisoned_memory() check
> right above it returns false, and the loop never executes.
> 
> What every boot does pay is that check, once per block. The stub installs
> the table whether or not anything was ever recorded in it, so this is not a
> NULL test: it is two 64-bit divisions by the unit size plus a
> find_next_bit() over the single word a 128M block covers at one bit per 2M.
> 
> The real cost (that "for loop above"), comes when you kexec (not on cold
> boot -- given the bitmap is empty), and you are trying to init
> a memory block that has poisoned pages into it. Which seems the right
> trade-off, no?
> 
> That said, can we do better? Yes. The silly win is to let the table say
> whether anything was ever recorded in it, something like a
> linux_efi_poisoned_memory->empty that the first recorded frame clears,
> and return on that before the bitmap is reached at all.
> 
> Is this what you are looking for, or something more drastic?

Ah, that magical "range_contains_poisoned_memory" does a bitmap scan?

I'm sorry, but that is absolutely confusing.

There is no way someone will figure out that range_contains_poisoned_memory()
queries some efi specific bitmap that won't even be able to represent any memory
outside of it's range.

I don't really have time to give a better solution, but starting with the
naming, range_contains_poisoned_memory() is just absolutely misleading.

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-16 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-15 12:53 [PATCH v5 0/9] mm/memory-failure: keep hardware-poisoned pages out of the next kexec Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] mm/page_alloc: factor out the accept-and-free tail of __free_pages_core() Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 12:57   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] mm/memory-failure: efi: add the LINUX_EFI_POISONED_MEMORY configuration table Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:05   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] mm/memory-failure: libstub: install the poisoned-memory EFI table Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 14:00     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-16 15:39   ` Usama Arif
2026-09-17 10:53     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] mm/memory-failure: efi: adopt the inherited poisoned-memory table Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:24   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] mm/memory-failure: efi: record hardware-poisoned frames into the " Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:36   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 14:33     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] mm/memory-failure: efi: answer whether a range is poisoned Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:45   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-16  6:44     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] drivers/base/memory: count inherited poisoned frames into the block Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-16  6:48   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-16  9:35     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-16 14:51       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-17 13:01         ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] mm/memory-failure: add hwpoison_boot_page() to flag an inherited frame Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 14:11   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] mm/memory-failure: keep inherited poisoned frames out of the buddy allocator Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 14:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-16  8:32   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)

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