From: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Saurabh Sengar <ssengar@linux.microsoft.com>,
<skhawaja@google.com>, <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 9/9] Documentation: Update VFIO NOIOMMU mode
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 11:24:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8ce5fde-19bf-4c98-a837-480ce3284434@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260520092629.000053df@linux.microsoft.com>
On 5/21/26 00:26, Jacob Pan wrote:
> Hi Yi,
>
> On Wed, 20 May 2026 15:20:30 +0800
> Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/12/26 02:41, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>> Document the NOIOMMU mode with newly added cdev support under
>>> iommufd.
>>>
>>> Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
>>> ---
>>> Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst | 46
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- 1 file changed, 44 insertions(+), 2
>>> deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst
>>> b/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst index
>>> 2a21a42c9386..d97017d80b98 100644 ---
>>> a/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst +++
>>> b/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst @@ -275,8 +275,6 @@ in a VFIO
>>> group. With CONFIG_VFIO_DEVICE_CDEV=y the user can now acquire a
>>> device fd by directly opening a character device
>>> /dev/vfio/devices/vfioX where "X" is the number allocated uniquely
>>> by VFIO for registered devices. -cdev interface does not support
>>> noiommu devices, so user should use -the legacy group interface if
>>> noiommu is wanted.
>>> The cdev only works with IOMMUFD. Both VFIO drivers and
>>> applications must adapt to the new cdev security model which
>>> requires using @@ -370,6 +368,50 @@ IOMMUFD IOAS/HWPT to enable
>>> userspace DMA::
>>> /* Other device operations as stated in "VFIO Usage
>>> Example" */
>>> +VFIO NOIOMMU mode
>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> +VFIO also supports a no-IOMMU mode, intended for usages where
>>> unsafe DMA can +be performed by userspace drivers w/o physical
>>> IOMMU protection. This mode +is controlled by the parameter:
>>> +
>>> +/sys/module/vfio/parameters/enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode
>>> +
>>> +Upon enabling this mode, with an assigned device, the user will be
>>> presented +with a VFIO group and device file, e.g.::
>>> +
>>> + /dev/vfio/
>>> + |-- devices
>>> + | `-- noiommu-vfio0 /* VFIO device cdev */
>>> + |-- noiommu-0 /* VFIO group */
>>> + `-- vfio
>>
>> how about noiommu-vfioX and noiommu-Y? Just want to deliver the
>> message that the two number is not 100% identical.
>>
> good point.
>
>>> +The capabilities vary depending on the device programming
>>> interface and kernel +configuration used. The following table
>>> summarizes the differences: +
>>> ++-------------------+---------------------+----------------------+
>>> +| Feature | VFIO group | VFIO device cdev |
>>> ++===================+=====================+======================+
>>> +| VFIO device UAPI | Yes | Yes |
>>> ++-------------------+---------------------+----------------------+
>>> +| VFIO container | No | No |
>>> ++-------------------+---------------------+----------------------+
>>> +| IOMMUFD IOAS | No | Yes* |
>>> ++-------------------+---------------------+----------------------+
>>> +
>>
>> not quite the above table. Why 'VFIO container' is "No" for VFIO
>> group?
>>
> I meant VFIO group interface has no access to VFIO container UAPIs,
> such as DMA MAP/UNMAP.
>
> how about I will add the following:
>
> The capabilities vary depending on the device programming interface and kernel
> -configuration used. The following table summarizes the differences:
> +configuration used. The following table summarizes the differences ("Yes" means
> +the UAPI is accessible and functional in noiommu mode, "No" means the UAPI is
> +not supported):
I see. this helps a lot. :)
>>> +Note that the VFIO container case includes IOMMUFD provided VFIO
>>> compatibility +interfaces when either CONFIG_VFIO_CONTAINER or
>>> CONFIG_IOMMUFD_VFIO_CONTAINER is +enabled.
>>> +
>>> +* IOMMUFD UAPI is available for VFIO device cdev to pin and map
>>> user memory with
>>> + the ability to retrieve physical addresses for DMA command
>>> submission. +
>>> +A new IOMMUFD ioctl IOMMU_IOAS_NOIOMMU_GET_PA is added to retrieve
>>> the physical +address for a given IOVA. Although there is no
>>> physical DMA remapping hardware, +IOMMU_IOAS_MAP_FIXED_IOVA is
>>> still used to establish IOVA-to-PA mappings in the +software page
>>> table for later IOMMU_IOAS_NOIOMMU_GET_PA lookups.
>>> +tools/testing/selftests/vfio/vfio_iommufd_noiommu_test.c provides
>>> an example of +using this ioctl in no-IOMMU mode. +
>>> VFIO User API
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-21 3:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-11 18:41 [PATCH v5 0/9] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] vfio: Rename VFIO_NOIOMMU to VFIO_GROUP_NOIOMMU Jacob Pan
2026-05-19 23:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] iommufd: Support a HWPT without an iommu driver for noiommu Jacob Pan
2026-05-13 6:58 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-13 21:30 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-13 19:18 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20 7:19 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 16:15 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] iommufd: Move igroup allocation to a function Jacob Pan
2026-05-13 7:18 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] iommufd: Allow binding to a noiommu device Jacob Pan
2026-05-13 7:37 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-13 22:08 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-14 6:51 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-19 21:25 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-20 7:20 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 15:54 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-21 3:27 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] iommufd: Add an ioctl to query PA from IOVA for noiommu mode Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:58 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-13 7:53 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-13 12:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-13 22:20 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-13 23:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-20 7:20 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 7:31 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 14:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-20 14:39 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 17:02 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] vfio/group: Add VFIO_CDEV_NOIOMMU Kconfig and tolerate NULL group Jacob Pan
2026-05-20 3:45 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-20 17:08 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] vfio: Enable cdev noiommu mode under iommufd Jacob Pan
2026-05-19 23:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-20 2:56 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-20 3:46 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-20 7:20 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 18:15 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-21 3:25 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-21 16:49 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] selftests/vfio: Add iommufd noiommu mode selftest for cdev Jacob Pan
2026-05-11 18:41 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] Documentation: Update VFIO NOIOMMU mode Jacob Pan
2026-05-20 7:20 ` Yi Liu
2026-05-20 16:26 ` Jacob Pan
2026-05-21 3:24 ` Yi Liu [this message]
2026-05-19 18:01 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19 21:03 ` Jacob Pan
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