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From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
To: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
Cc: <davem@davemloft.net>, <kuba@kernel.org>, <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Liang Chen <liangchen.linux@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 1/6] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:46:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8efc2ce-8856-2c9b-2a8c-edf2a819ebe5@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC_iWjJbrwSTT9OT3VjzXkCTdcwShWWaaPJUVC0aG2hR5sbkWg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2023/8/17 19:43, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to simplify the driver's work when using frag API
>>>>>> this patch allows page_pool_alloc_frag() to call
>>>>>> page_pool_alloc_pages() to return pages for those arches.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have any use cases of people needing this?  Those architectures
>>>>> should be long dead and although we have to support them in the
>>>>> kernel,  I don't personally see the advantage of adjusting the API to
>>>>> do that.  Right now we have a very clear separation between allocating
>>>>> pages or fragments.   Why should we hide a page allocation under a
>>>>> frag allocation?  A driver writer can simply allocate pages for those
>>>>> boards.  Am I the only one not seeing a clean win here?
>>>>
>>>> It is also a part of removing the per page_pool PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag
>>>> in this patchset.
>>>
>>> Yes, that happens *because* of this patchset.  I am not against the
>>> change.  In fact, I'll have a closer look tomorrow.  I am just trying
>>> to figure out if we really need it.  When the recycling patches were
>>> introduced into page pool we had a very specific reason.  Due to the
>>> XDP verifier we *had* to allocate a packet per page.  That was
>>
>> Did you mean a xdp frame containing a frag page can not be passed to the
>> xdp core?
>> What is exact reason why the XDP verifier need a packet per page?
>> Is there a code block that you can point me to?
> 
> It's been a while since I looked at this, but doesn't __xdp_return()
> still sync the entire page if the mem type comes from page_pool?

Yes, I checked that too.
It is supposed to sync the entire page if the mem type comes from page_pool,
as it depend on the last freed frag to do the sync_for_device operation.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-18  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-14 12:56 [PATCH net-next v6 0/6] introduce page_pool_alloc() related API Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-14 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 1/6] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-15 11:24   ` Simon Horman
2023-08-15 12:31     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-16 11:26   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-08-16 12:49     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-16 17:01       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-08-17  9:05         ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-17 11:43           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-08-18  8:46             ` Yunsheng Lin [this message]
2023-08-14 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 2/6] page_pool: unify frag_count handling in page_pool_is_last_frag() Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-14 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 3/6] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-14 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 4/6] page_pool: introduce page_pool[_cache]_alloc() API Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-14 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 5/6] page_pool: update document about frag API Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-14 22:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-08-15 12:24     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-15 15:12       ` Randy Dunlap
2023-08-14 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 6/6] net: veth: use newly added page pool API for veth with xdp Yunsheng Lin

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