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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Zeng Guang <guang.zeng@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>,
	Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Robert Hu <robert.hu@intel.com>, Gao Chao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/9] KVM: x86: lapic: don't allow to change APIC ID unconditionally
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:11:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b9638fe3383d7b36846255e1d05afa9c1bfc7a0f.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb849245c98ea7f5d5e9320ee6ee6b0d1851b439.camel@infradead.org>

On Fri, 2022-02-25 at 14:56 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-02-25 at 16:46 +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-02-25 at 16:22 +0800, Zeng Guang wrote:
> > > From: Maxim Levitsky <
> > > mlevitsk@redhat.com
> > > 
> > > No normal guest has any reason to change physical APIC IDs, and
> > > allowing this introduces bugs into APIC acceleration code.
> > > 
> > > And Intel recent hardware just ignores writes to APIC_ID in
> > > xAPIC mode. More background can be found at:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yfw5ddGNOnDqxMLs@google.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Looks there is no much value to support writable xAPIC ID in
> > > guest except supporting some old and crazy use cases which
> > > probably would fail on real hardware. So, make xAPIC ID
> > > read-only for KVM guests.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Zeng Guang <guang.zeng@intel.com>
> > 
> > Assuming that this is approved and accepted upstream,
> > that is even better that my proposal of doing this
> > when APICv is enabled.
> > 
> > Since now apic id is always read only, now we should not 
> > forget to clean up some parts of kvm like kvm_recalculate_apic_map,
> > which are not needed anymore
> 
> Can we also now optimise kvm_get_vcpu_by_id() so it doesn't have to do
> a linear search over all the vCPUs when there isn't a 1:1
> correspondence with the vCPU index?

I don't think so since vcpu id can still be set by userspace to anything,
and this is even used to encode topology in it.


However a hash table can still be used there to speed it up regardless of
read-only apic id IMHO.

Or, even better than a hash table, I see that KVM already 
limits vcpu_id to KVM_MAX_VCPUS * 4 with a comment that only two extra
bits of topology are used:

"In the worst case, we'll need less than one extra bit for the
 * Core ID, and less than one extra bit for the Package (Die) ID,
 * so ratio of 4 should be enough"

Thus, we could in theory standardize location of those bits in apic_id 
(even with a new KVM extension and do linear search for legacy userspace), 
and then just mask/shift the topology bits.

The kvm extension would be defining how many low (or high?) bits of vcpu_id
are topology bits.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-25 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-25  8:22 [PATCH v6 0/9] IPI virtualization support for VM Zeng Guang
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] x86/cpu: Add new VMX feature, Tertiary VM-Execution control Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 14:09   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] KVM: VMX: Extend BUILD_CONTROLS_SHADOW macro to support 64-bit variation Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 14:24   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] KVM: VMX: Detect Tertiary VM-Execution control when setup VMCS config Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 14:30   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] KVM: VMX: dump_vmcs() reports tertiary_exec_control field as well Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 14:31   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] KVM: x86: Add support for vICR APIC-write VM-Exits in x2APIC mode Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 14:44   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25 15:29     ` Chao Gao
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] KVM: x86: lapic: don't allow to change APIC ID unconditionally Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 14:46   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25 14:56     ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-25 15:11       ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2022-02-25 15:42         ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-25 16:12           ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-01  8:03     ` Chao Gao
2022-03-08 23:04   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-09  5:21     ` Chao Gao
2022-03-09  6:01       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-09 12:59         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-11  4:26           ` Sean Christopherson
     [not found]             ` <29c76393-4884-94a8-f224-08d313b73f71@intel.com>
2022-03-13  9:19               ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-13 10:59                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-13 13:53                   ` Chao Gao
2022-03-13 15:09                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-14  4:09                       ` Chao Gao
2022-03-15 15:10                       ` Chao Gao
2022-03-15 15:30                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-16 11:50                           ` Chao Gao
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] KVM: VMX: enable IPI virtualization Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 17:19   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-01  9:21     ` Chao Gao
2022-03-02  6:45       ` Chao Gao
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] KVM: x86: Allow userspace set maximum VCPU id for VM Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 17:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-02-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] KVM: VMX: Optimize memory allocation for PID-pointer table Zeng Guang
2022-02-25 17:29   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-01  9:23     ` Chao Gao

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