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From: "Jonas Mark (BT-FIR/ENG1)" <Mark.Jonas@de.bosch.com>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	"linux-can@vger.kernel.org" <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>,
	"ZHU Yi (BT-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)" <Yi.Zhu5@cn.bosch.com>,
	"Jonas Mark (BT-FIR/ENG1)" <Mark.Jonas@de.bosch.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] spi: implement companion-spi driver
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:56:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb9540ed90e944c7a8e27287e6df25d5@de.bosch.com> (raw)

Hi Oleksij,

> > > > +               if (slave_is_not_busy(priv))
> > > > +                       return 0;
> > > > +
> > >
> > > > +               udelay(READY_POLL_US_GRAN);
> > >
> > > Should it be atomic?
> > > Can it use read_poll_* type of helpers instead?
> >
> > Yes, it shall be atomic because we need to reduce the latency at
> > detecting the de-assertion of the busy signal. We accept that this will
> > cost CPU time.
> >
> > In case the Companion itself is very busy and does not reply quickly we
> > are have second polling loop below which sleeps longer and is non-atomic.
> 
> I can confirm, this make huge impact on protocol performance. And this
> protocol is not really the speed runner.

The challenge is that the protocol is synchronous and without back to
back transfers.

> you can send dummy message to set CS.
> +	struct spi_transfer t = {
> +		.len = 0,
> +		.cs_change = 1,
> +	};
> 
> +	/* send dummy to trigger CS */
> +	reinit_completion(&priv->fc_complete);
> +	spi_sync_locked(spi, &m);
> 
> see my ancient unfinished code:
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9418511/

We will check it out.

> In general, this part of the code, can be provided as separate driver
> which should be called as "SPI 5wire protocol". 3 wires for data, 1 -
> chip select, 1 - busy state. Since, the slave cant fit to normal SPI
> requirements, and can't be ready within predictable time, busy signal is
> needed. Providing this as separate driver or part of SPI framework
> should reduce the code for many different drivers.
> 
> The actual datagram on top of your spi companion should go to
> separate driver. There are similar (almost identical designs)
> 
> can :+
> char:+
> dw:  +
> gpio:+--->some_multi_end_mux_protocol--->spi_5wire_protocol->spi--->
> 
> In my knowledge, only data format on top of spi_5wire_protocol is
> different. See my notes for similar topics:
> https://github.com/olerem/icc
> https://github.com/olerem/spi-5wire

With 5-wire protocol you are referencing to CLK, MISO, MOSI, CS (all
standard SPI signals) and an extra BUSY signal. What we implemented is
a 6-wire protocol. There is an additional REQUEST line where the SPI
slave requests a transfer. It is like a level triggered interrupt
request.

Yes, for making it more generic the code in drivers/spi/companion
could be split into a generic 6-wire protocol driver and a multiplexing
protocol on top of it.

How does a slave signal that it has data to be picked up with the
5-wire protocol?

Greetings,
Mark

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             reply	other threads:[~2018-06-08  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08  6:56 Jonas Mark (BT-FIR/ENG1) [this message]
2018-06-08  7:05 ` Oleksij Rempel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-05 18:43 [PATCH 0/5] can: enable multi-queue for SocketCAN devices Mark Jonas
2018-06-05 18:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] spi: implement companion-spi driver Mark Jonas
2018-06-06 18:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-06-07 14:58     ` AW: " Jonas Mark (BT-FIR/ENG1)
2018-06-08  6:03       ` Oleksij Rempel

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