From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>
Cc: frederic@kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu 06/12] srcu: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() and srcu_read_unlock_lite()
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:28:44 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb96e032-4f7d-41bf-a675-81350dca8d0a@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c15d4a80-2f27-4588-af87-9cf7cf3ad79e@amd.com>
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 10:21:58PM +0530, Neeraj Upadhyay wrote:
> On 11/11/2024 8:56 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 06:24:58PM +0530, Neeraj Upadhyay wrote:
> >>> /*
> >>> - * Returns approximate total of the readers' ->srcu_lock_count[] values
> >>> - * for the rank of per-CPU counters specified by idx.
> >>> + * Computes approximate total of the readers' ->srcu_lock_count[] values
> >>> + * for the rank of per-CPU counters specified by idx, and returns true if
> >>> + * the caller did the proper barrier (gp), and if the count of the locks
> >>> + * matches that of the unlocks passed in.
> >>> */
> >>> -static unsigned long srcu_readers_lock_idx(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx)
> >>> +static bool srcu_readers_lock_idx(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx, bool gp, unsigned long unlocks)
> >>> {
> >>> int cpu;
> >>> + unsigned long mask = 0;
> >>> unsigned long sum = 0;
> >>>
> >>> for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> >>> struct srcu_data *sdp = per_cpu_ptr(ssp->sda, cpu);
> >>>
> >>> sum += atomic_long_read(&sdp->srcu_lock_count[idx]);
> >>> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PROVE_RCU))
> >>> + mask = mask | READ_ONCE(sdp->srcu_reader_flavor);
> >>> }
> >>> - return sum;
> >>> + WARN_ONCE(IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PROVE_RCU) && (mask & (mask - 1)),
> >>> + "Mixed reader flavors for srcu_struct at %ps.\n", ssp);
> >>
> >> I am trying to understand the (unlikely) case where synchronize_srcu() is done before any
> >> srcu reader lock/unlock lite call is done. Can new SRCU readers fail to observe the
> >> updates?
> >
> > If a SRCU reader fail to observe the index flip, then isn't it the case
> > that the synchronize_rcu() invoked from srcu_readers_active_idx_check()
> > must wait on it?
>
> Below is the sequence of operations I was thinking of, where at step 4 CPU2
> reads old pointer
>
> ptr = old
>
>
> CPU1 CPU2
>
> 1. Update ptr = new
>
> 2. synchronize_srcu()
>
> <Does not use synchronize_rcu()
> as SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE is not
> set for any sdp as srcu_read_lock_lite()
> hasn't been called by any CPU>
>
> 3. srcu_read_lock_lite()
> <No smp_mb() ordering>
>
> 4. Can read ptr == old ?
As long as the kernel was built with CONFIG_PROVE_RCU=y and given a fix
to the wrong-CPU issue you quite rightly point out below, no it cannot.
The CPU's first call to srcu_read_lock_lite() will use cmpxchg() to update
->srcu_reader_flavor, which will place full ordering between that update
and the later read from "ptr".
So if the synchronize_srcu() is too early to see the SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE
bit, then the reader must see the new value of "ptr". Similarly,
if the reader can see the old value of "ptr", then synchronize_srcu()
must see the reader's setting of the SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE bit.
But both the CONFIG_PROVE_RCU=n and the wrong-CPU issue must be fixed
for this to work. Please see the upcoming patches to be posted as a
reply to this email.
> >>> + if (mask & SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE && !gp)
> >>> + return false;
> >>
> >> So, srcu_readers_active_idx_check() can potentially return false for very long
> >> time, until the CPU executing srcu_readers_active_idx_check() does
> >> at least one read lock/unlock lite call?
> >
> > That is correct. The theory is that until after an srcu_read_lock_lite()
> > has executed, there is no need to wait on it. Does the practice match the
> > theory in this case, or is there some sequence of events that I missed?
>
> Below sequence
>
> CPU1 CPU2
> 1. srcu_read_lock_lite()
>
>
> 2. srcu_read_unlock_lite()
>
> 3. synchronize_srcu()
>
> 3.1 srcu_readers_lock_idx() is
> called with gp = false as
> srcu_read_lock_lite() was never
> called on this CPU for this
> srcu_struct. So
> ssp->sda->srcu_reader_flavor is not
> set for CPU1's sda.
Good eyes! Yes, the scan that sums the ->srcu_unlock_count[] counters
must also OR together the ->srcu_reader_flavor fields.
> 3.2 Inside srcu_readers_lock_idx()
> "mask" contains SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE
> as CPU2's sdp->srcu_reader_flavor has it.
>
> 3.3 CPU1 keeps returning false from
> below check until CPU1 does at least
> one srcu_read_lock_lite() call or
> the thread migrates.
>
> if (mask & SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE && !gp)
> return false;
This is also fixed by the OR of the ->srcu_reader_flavor fields, correct?
I guess I could claim that this bug prevents the wrong-CPU bug above
from resulting in a too-short SRCU grace period, but it is of course
better to just fix the bugs. ;-)
> >>> + return sum == unlocks;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> /*
> >>> @@ -473,6 +482,7 @@ static unsigned long srcu_readers_unlock_idx(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx)
> >>> */
> >>> static bool srcu_readers_active_idx_check(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx)
> >>> {
> >>> + bool did_gp = !!(raw_cpu_read(ssp->sda->srcu_reader_flavor) & SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_LITE);
> >>
> >> sda->srcu_reader_flavor is only set when CONFIG_PROVE_RCU is enabled. But we
> >> need the reader flavor information for srcu lite variant to work. So, lite
> >> variant does not work when CONFIG_PROVE_RCU is disabled. Am I missing something
> >> obvious here?
> >
> > At first glance, it appears that I am the one who missed something obvious.
> > Including in testing, which failed to uncover this issue.
> >
> > Thank you for the careful reviews!
>
> Sure thing, no problem!
And again, thank you!
Thanx, Paul
> >>> unsigned long unlocks;
> >>>
> >>> unlocks = srcu_readers_unlock_idx(ssp, idx);
> >>> @@ -482,13 +492,16 @@ static bool srcu_readers_active_idx_check(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx)
> >>> * unlock is counted. Needs to be a smp_mb() as the read side may
> >>> * contain a read from a variable that is written to before the
> >>> * synchronize_srcu() in the write side. In this case smp_mb()s
> >>> - * A and B act like the store buffering pattern.
> >>> + * A and B (or X and Y) act like the store buffering pattern.
> >>> *
> >>> - * This smp_mb() also pairs with smp_mb() C to prevent accesses
> >>> - * after the synchronize_srcu() from being executed before the
> >>> - * grace period ends.
> >>> + * This smp_mb() also pairs with smp_mb() C (or, in the case of X,
> >>> + * Z) to prevent accesses after the synchronize_srcu() from being
> >>> + * executed before the grace period ends.
> >>> */
> >>> - smp_mb(); /* A */
> >>> + if (!did_gp)
> >>> + smp_mb(); /* A */
> >>> + else
> >>> + synchronize_rcu(); /* X */
> >>>
> >>> /*
> >>> * If the locks are the same as the unlocks, then there must have
> >>> @@ -546,7 +559,7 @@ static bool srcu_readers_active_idx_check(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx)
> >>> * which are unlikely to be configured with an address space fully
> >>> * populated with memory, at least not anytime soon.
> >>> */
> >>> - return srcu_readers_lock_idx(ssp, idx) == unlocks;
> >>> + return srcu_readers_lock_idx(ssp, idx, did_gp, unlocks);
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-12 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-09 18:07 [PATCH rcu 0/12] SRCU-lite changes for v6.13 Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 01/12] srcu: Rename srcu_might_be_idle() to srcu_should_expedite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-14 8:56 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 02/12] srcu: Introduce srcu_gp_is_expedited() helper function Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-14 8:57 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 03/12] srcu: Renaming in preparation for additional reader flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-14 9:10 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-14 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 3:25 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 04/12] srcu: Bit manipulation changes " Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-14 9:12 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-14 16:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 3:32 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 05/12] srcu: Standardize srcu_data pointers to "sdp" and similar Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-14 9:15 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-14 16:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 0:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 5:10 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 06/12] srcu: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() and srcu_read_unlock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-11 12:54 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-11 15:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-11 16:51 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-12 1:28 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2024-11-12 1:31 ` [PATCH rcu 1/3] srcu: Remove smp_mb() from srcu_read_unlock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-12 3:17 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-12 1:31 ` [PATCH rcu 2/3] srcu: Check for srcu_read_lock_lite() across all CPUs Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-12 3:28 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-12 5:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-12 1:31 ` [PATCH rcu 3/3] srcu: Unconditionally record srcu_read_lock_lite() in ->srcu_reader_flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-12 4:32 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-12 3:15 ` [PATCH rcu 06/12] srcu: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() and srcu_read_unlock_lite() Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 07/12] srcu: Allow inlining of __srcu_read_{,un}lock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 08/12] rcutorture: Expand RCUTORTURE_RDR_MASK_[12] to eight bits Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 09/12] rcutorture: Add reader_flavor parameter for SRCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 10/12] rcutorture: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() support to rcutorture.reader_flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 11/12] rcutorture: Add light-weight SRCU scenario Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 18:07 ` [PATCH rcu 12/12] refscale: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() support using "srcu-lite" Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 15:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-10 16:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 0/13] SRCU-lite changes for v6.13 Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 01/13] srcu: Rename srcu_might_be_idle() to srcu_should_expedite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 02/13] srcu: Introduce srcu_gp_is_expedited() helper function Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 03/13] srcu: Renaming in preparation for additional reader flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 04/13] srcu: Bit manipulation changes " Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 05/13] srcu: Standardize srcu_data pointers to "sdp" and similar Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 06/13] srcu: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() and srcu_read_unlock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 07/13] srcu: Allow inlining of __srcu_read_{,un}lock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 08/13] rcutorture: Expand RCUTORTURE_RDR_MASK_[12] to eight bits Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 09/13] rcutorture: Add reader_flavor parameter for SRCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 10/13] rcutorture: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() support to rcutorture.reader_flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 11/13] rcutorture: Add light-weight SRCU scenario Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 12/13] refscale: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() support using "srcu-lite" Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 rcu 13/13] srcu: Improve srcu_read_lock_lite() kernel-doc comment Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 17:57 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-10-15 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH v3 rcu 0/13] SRCU-lite changes for v6.13 Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:10 ` [PATCH rcu 01/15] srcu: Rename srcu_might_be_idle() to srcu_should_expedite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:10 ` [PATCH rcu 02/15] srcu: Introduce srcu_gp_is_expedited() helper function Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 03/15] srcu: Renaming in preparation for additional reader flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 04/15] srcu: Bit manipulation changes " Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 05/15] srcu: Standardize srcu_data pointers to "sdp" and similar Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 06/15] srcu: Improve srcu_read_lock{,_nmisafe}() comments Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 07/15] srcu: Create CPP macros for normal and NMI-safe SRCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 08/15] srcu: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() and srcu_read_unlock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-04 23:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-05 0:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-11 11:17 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-11 15:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-11 17:46 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-11-11 17:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 09/15] srcu: Allow inlining of __srcu_read_{,un}lock_lite() Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 10/15] rcutorture: Expand RCUTORTURE_RDR_MASK_[12] to eight bits Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 11/15] rcutorture: Add reader_flavor parameter for SRCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-12 4:42 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-11-12 19:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-13 3:20 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 12/15] rcutorture: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() support to rcutorture.reader_flavor Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 13/15] rcutorture: Add light-weight SRCU scenario Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 14/15] refscale: Add srcu_read_lock_lite() support using "srcu-lite" Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-29 0:25 ` [PATCH rcu v4 " Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 16:11 ` [PATCH rcu 15/15] srcu: Improve srcu_read_lock_lite() kernel-doc comment Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-12 4:37 ` [PATCH v3 rcu 0/13] SRCU-lite changes for v6.13 Neeraj Upadhyay
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