From: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: eranian@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
paulus@samba.org, perfmon2-devel@lists.sf.net,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf_events: improve Intel event scheduling
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd4cb8900912211100n419ef5b1w5322656b034f909e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261410040.4314.178.camel@laptop>
Hi,
[Repost because of HTML]
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:59 +0100, stephane eranian wrote:
>
> > There is a major difference between PPC and X86 here. PPC has a
> > centralized register to control start/stop. This register uses
> > bitmask to enable or disable counters. Thus, in hw_perf_enable(), if
> > n_added=0, then you just need to use the pre-computed bitmask.
> > Otherwise, you need to recompute the bitmask to include the new
> > registers. The assignment of events and validation is done in
> > hw_group_sched_in().
> >
> > In X86, assignment and validation is done in hw_group_sched_in().
> > Activation is done individually for each counter. There is no
> > centralized register used here, thus no bitmask to update.
>
> intel core2 has the global control reg, but for all intents and purposes
> the perf_enable/disable calls emulate this global enable/disable.
>
> > Disabling a counter does not trigger a complete reschedule of events.
> > This happens only when hw_group_sched_in() is called.
> >
> > The n_events = 0 in hw_perf_disable() is used to signal that something
> > is changing. It should not be here but here. The problem is that
> > hw_group_sched_in() needs a way to know that it is called for a
> > completely new series of group scheduling so it can discard any
> > previous assignment. This goes back to the issue I raised in my
> > previous email. You could add a parameter to hw_group_sched_in() that
> > would indicate this is the first group. that would cause n_events =0
> > and the function would start accumulating events for the new
> > scheduling period.
>
> I'm not really seeing the problem here...
>
>
> perf_disable() <-- shut down the full pmu
>
> pmu->disable() <-- hey someone got removed (easy free the reg)
> pmu->enable() <-- hey someone got added (harder, check constraints)
>
> hw_perf_group_sched_in() <-- hey a full group got added
> (better than multiple ->enable)
>
> perf_enable() <-- re-enable pmu
>
>
> So ->disable() is used to track freeing, ->enable is used to add
> individual counters, check constraints etc..
>
> hw_perf_group_sched_in() is used to optimize the full group enable.
>
Does that mean that after a disable() I can assume that there won't
be an enable() without a group_sched_in()?
I suspect not. In fact, there is a counter-example in perf_ctx_adjust_freq().
> Afaict that is what power does (Paul?) and that should I think be
> sufficient to track x86 as well.
>
> Since sched_in() is balanced with sched_out(), the ->disable() calls
> should provide the required information as to the occupation of the pmu.
> I don't see the need for more hooks.
>
> Paul, could you comment, since you did all this for power?
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-21 19:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-19 15:03 Stephane Eranian
2009-11-18 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-11 11:00 ` stephane eranian
2009-12-11 11:59 ` stephane eranian
2009-12-21 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-21 19:00 ` Stephane Eranian [this message]
2009-12-21 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-21 20:59 ` Stephane Eranian
2009-12-21 21:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 1:09 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-12-22 1:02 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-12-29 14:47 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-07 4:13 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-01-07 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 9:54 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-07 10:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 0:57 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-12-11 14:38 ` Stephane Eranian
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