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From: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 4/4] net/ipv4/fib: Don't synchronise_rcu() every 512Kb
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:15:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd638730-e23a-3d08-bd35-9c80af13692b@arista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f911647-f35f-13c2-8177-2fb93147b0fa@gmail.com>

Hi David,

On 3/26/19 3:39 PM, David Ahern wrote:
> On 3/26/19 9:30 AM, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
>> Fib trie has a hard-coded sync_pages limit to call synchronise_rcu().
>> The limit is 128 pages or 512Kb (considering common case with 4Kb
>> pages).
>>
>> Unfortunately, at Arista we have use-scenarios with full view software
>> forwarding. At the scale of 100K and more routes even on 2 core boxes
>> the hard-coded limit starts actively shooting in the leg: lockup
>> detector notices that rtnl_lock is held for seconds.
>> First reason is previously broken MAX_WORK, that didn't limit pending
>> balancing work. While fixing it, I've noticed that the bottle-neck is
>> actually in the number of synchronise_rcu() calls.
>>
>> I've tried to fix it with a patch to decrement number of tnodes in rcu
>> callback, but it hasn't much affected performance.
>>
>> One possible way to "fix" it - provide another sysctl to control
>> sync_pages, but in my POV it's nasty - exposing another realisation
>> detail into user-space.
> 
> well, that was accepted last week. ;-)
> 
> commit 9ab948a91b2c2abc8e82845c0e61f4b1683e3a4f
> Author: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
> Date:   Wed Mar 20 09:18:59 2019 -0700
> 
>     ipv4: Allow amount of dirty memory from fib resizing to be controllable
> 
> 
> Can you see how that change (should backport easily) affects your test
> case? From my perspective 16MB was the sweet spot.

Heh, I based on master, so haven't seen it yet.

I still wonder if it's good to expose it to userspace rather than
shrinker, but this probably should work for me - I'll test it in near days.

Thanks,
          Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-26 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-26 15:30 [RFC 0/4] net/fib: Speed up trie rebalancing for full view Dmitry Safonov
2019-03-26 15:30 ` [RFC 1/4] net/ipv4/fib: Remove run-time check in tnode_alloc() Dmitry Safonov
2019-04-01 15:40   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-04-01 15:55     ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-04-01 17:50       ` Alexander Duyck
2019-04-04 16:33         ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-03-26 15:30 ` [RFC 2/4] net/fib: Provide fib_balance_budget sysctl Dmitry Safonov
2019-04-01 18:09   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-04-04 18:31     ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-03-26 15:30 ` [RFC 3/4] net/fib: Check budget before should_{inflate,halve}() Dmitry Safonov
2019-04-01 18:20   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-03-26 15:30 ` [RFC 4/4] net/ipv4/fib: Don't synchronise_rcu() every 512Kb Dmitry Safonov
2019-03-26 15:39   ` David Ahern
2019-03-26 17:15     ` Dmitry Safonov [this message]
2019-03-26 17:57       ` David Ahern
2019-03-26 18:17         ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-03-26 23:14     ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-03-27  3:33       ` Paul E. McKenney

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