From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@aol.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>, Miao Xie <miaoxie@huawei.com>,
devel <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
linux-erofs <linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Li Guifu <bluce.liguifu@huawei.com>,
Fang Wei <fangwei1@huawei.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 08:55:32 +0800 [thread overview]
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>>> I have made a simple fuzzer to inject messy in inode metadata,
>>> dir data, compressed indexes and super block,
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/xiang/erofs-utils.git/commit/?h=experimental-fuzzer
>>>
>>> I am testing with some given dirs and the following script.
>>> Does it look reasonable?
>>>
>>> # !/bin/bash
>>>
>>> mkdir -p mntdir
>>>
>>> for ((i=0; i<1000; ++i)); do
>>> mkfs/mkfs.erofs -F$i testdir_fsl.fuzz.img testdir_fsl > /dev/null 2>&1
>>
>> mkfs fuzzes the image? Er....
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> First, This is just the first step of erofs fuzzer I wrote yesterday night...
>
>>
>> Over in XFS land we have an xfs debugging tool (xfs_db) that knows how
>> to dump (and write!) most every field of every metadata type. This
>> makes it fairly easy to write systematic level 0 fuzzing tests that
>> check how well the filesystem reacts to garbage data (zeroing,
>> randomizing, oneing, adding and subtracting small integers) in a field.
>> (It also knows how to trash entire blocks.)
The same tool exists for btrfs, although lacks the write ability, but
that dump is more comprehensive and a great tool to learn the on-disk
format.
And for the fuzzing defending part, just a few kernel releases ago,
there is none for btrfs, and now we have a full static verification
layer to cover (almost) all on-disk data at read and write time.
(Along with enhanced runtime check)
We have covered from vague values inside tree blocks and invalid/missing
cross-ref find at runtime.
Currently the two layered check works pretty fine (well, sometimes too
good to detect older, improper behaved kernel).
- Tree blocks with vague data just get rejected by verification layer
So that all members should fit on-disk format, from alignment to
generation to inode mode.
The error will trigger a good enough (TM) error message for developer
to read, and if we have other copies, we retry other copies just as
we hit a bad copy.
- At runtime, we have much less to check
Only cross-ref related things can be wrong now. since everything
inside a single tree block has already be checked.
In fact, from my respect of view, such read time check should be there
from the very beginning.
It acts kinda of a on-disk format spec. (In fact, by implementing the
verification layer itself, it already exposes a lot of btrfs design
trade-offs)
Even for a fs as complex (buggy) as btrfs, we only take 1K lines to
implement the verification layer.
So I'd like to see every new mainlined fs to have such ability.
>
> Actually, compared with XFS, EROFS has rather simple on-disk format.
> What we inject one time is quite deterministic.
>
> The first step just purposely writes some random fuzzed data to
> the base inode metadata, compressed indexes, or dir data field
> (one round one field) to make it validity and coverability.
>
>>
>> You might want to write such a debugging tool for erofs so that you can
>> take apart crashed images to get a better idea of what went wrong, and
>> to write easy fuzzing tests.
>
> Yes, we will do such a debugging tool of course. Actually Li Guifu is now
> developping a erofs-fuse to support old linux versions or other OSes for
> archiveing only use, we will base on that code to develop a better fuzzer
> tool as well.
Personally speaking, debugging tool is way more important than a running
kernel module/fuse.
It's human trying to write the code, most of time is spent educating
code readers, thus debugging tool is way more important than dead cold code.
Thanks,
Qu
>
> Thanks,
> Gao Xiang
>
>>
>> --D
>>
>>> umount mntdir
>>> mount -t erofs -o loop testdir_fsl.fuzz.img mntdir
>>> for j in `find mntdir -type f`; do
>>> md5sum $j > /dev/null
>>> done
>>> done
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gao Xiang
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Gao Xiang
>>>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-20 0:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-17 8:23 Gao Xiang
2019-08-17 21:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-17 22:07 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-17 23:25 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-17 23:38 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 0:04 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 0:52 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 8:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 8:45 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 9:03 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 9:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-18 9:21 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 10:12 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-18 15:11 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 15:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 16:16 ` Eric Biggers
2019-08-18 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 16:33 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 17:29 ` Eric Biggers
2019-08-18 17:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 18:16 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 20:14 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 7:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-19 8:02 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 0/6] staging: erofs: first stage of corrupted compressed images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] staging: erofs: some compressed cluster should be submitted for corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:36 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 14:39 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 2/6] staging: erofs: cannot set EROFS_V_Z_INITED_BIT if fill_inode_lazy fails Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:43 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] staging: erofs: add two missing erofs_workgroup_put for corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:40 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 4/6] staging: erofs: avoid loop in submit chains Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:50 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 5/6] staging: erofs: detect potential multiref due to corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:57 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-21 2:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-21 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 " Gao Xiang
2019-08-21 14:24 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 6/6] staging: erofs: avoid endless loop of invalid lookback distance 0 Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:58 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 16:09 ` [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-19 20:30 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20 0:55 ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2019-08-20 1:55 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20 2:24 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 2:38 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20 7:15 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 8:46 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-21 2:12 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 15:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-20 16:35 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-21 0:51 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-21 1:34 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-21 1:48 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-21 1:57 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 3:33 ` Miao Xie
2019-08-20 3:46 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20 6:04 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20 6:22 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 7:37 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 17:43 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 16:03 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 17:06 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 17:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 18:00 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 18:31 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 9:28 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 5:28 ` [PATCH] erofs: Use common kernel logging style Joe Perches
2019-08-19 5:52 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 5:47 ` Joe Perches
2019-08-19 6:08 ` Gao Xiang
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