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From: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Tim Harvey <tharvey@gateworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] phy: aquantia: Determine rate adaptation support from registers
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:10:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdd84dcd-3f3c-4ed6-2694-bb8252a9a266@seco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y7cfqdVzrCNX6VqE@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On 1/5/23 14:06, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 01:59:27PM -0500, Sean Anderson wrote:
>> On 1/5/23 13:55, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 07:52:06PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 12:43:47PM -0500, Sean Anderson wrote:
>> >> > Again, this is to comply with the existing API assumptions. The current
>> >> > code is buggy. Of course, another way around this is to modify the API.
>> >> > I have chosen this route because I don't have a situation like you
>> >> > described. But if support for that is important to you, I encourage you
>> >> > to refactor things.
>> >> 
>> >> I don't think I'm aware of a practical situation like that either.
>> >> I remember seeing some S32G boards with Aquantia PHYs which use 2500BASE-X
>> >> for 2.5G and SGMII for <=1G, but that's about it in terms of protocol switching.
>> > 
>> > 88x3310 can dynamically switch between 10GBASE-R, 5GBASE-R, 2500BASE-X
>> > and SGMII if rate adaption is not being used (and the rate adaption
>> > method it supports in non-MACSEC PHYs is only via increasing the IPG on
>> > the MAC... which currently no MAC driver supports.)
>> > 
>> 
>> As an aside, do you know of any MACs which support open-loop rate
>> matching to below ~95% of the line rate (the amount necessary for
>> 10GBASE-W)?
> 
> I'm afraid I haven't paid too much attention to BASE-W, and I'm not
> aware of anything within the realms of phylink/phylib supporting MAC
> drivers having anything for it. I don't even remember mention of it
> in any SoC datasheets.

The mEMAC supports "WAN mode" which does open-loop rate matching, but
it can really only adapt down to 9.5 GBit/s or so.

> Are you aware of a 10GBASE-W setup?

No.

--Sean


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-03 22:05 [PATCH net-next v5 0/4] " Sean Anderson
2023-01-03 22:05 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] net: phy: Move/rename phylink_interface_max_speed Sean Anderson
2023-01-03 22:05 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/4] phy: mdio: Reorganize defines Sean Anderson
2023-01-03 22:05 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/4] net: mdio: Update speed register bits Sean Anderson
2023-01-03 22:05 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] phy: aquantia: Determine rate adaptation support from registers Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 14:04   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 14:40     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-05 17:43       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 18:51         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-06 14:18           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 16:21     ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 17:34       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 17:43         ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 17:52           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 17:55             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 18:03               ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 18:11                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 18:17                   ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 18:58                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-05 19:00                   ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 18:55             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-05 18:59               ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-05 19:06                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-05 19:10                   ` Sean Anderson [this message]
2023-01-05 17:46         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-06 23:03           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-06 23:21             ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-06 23:29               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-19 18:32                 ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-09 18:56               ` Tim Harvey
2023-01-05 13:39 ` [PATCH net-next v5 0/4] " Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-05 16:25   ` Sean Anderson
2023-01-19 18:17 ` Sean Anderson

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