From: Shijie Huang <shijie@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Huang Shijie <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
anshuman.khandual@arm.com, corbet@lwn.net,
patches@amperecomputing.com, cl@linux.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, thuth@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
xiongwei.song@windriver.com, inux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2 fix] arm64: refactor the rodata=xxx
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:22:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <be0d7423-ca33-416d-a410-3ff303493261@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXF=1Hr9G4ZjnEVzJ1snn0V4L-=+bMU4bn=m0UbYLyBqGA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Ard,
On 2024/12/13 15:30, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> Hello Huang Shije,
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 at 06:32, Huang Shijie
> <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
>> As per admin guide documentation, "rodata=on" should be the default on
>> platforms. Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt describes
>> these options as
>>
>> rodata= [KNL,EARLY]
>> on Mark read-only kernel memory as read-only (default).
>> off Leave read-only kernel memory writable for debugging.
>> full Mark read-only kernel memory and aliases as read-only
>> [arm64]
>>
>> But on arm64 platform, "rodata=full" is the default instead. This patch
>> implements the following changes.
>>
>> - Make "rodata=on" behaviour same as the original "rodata=full"
>> - Make "rodata=noalias" (new) behaviour same as the original "rodata=on"
>> - Drop the original "rodata=full"
>> - Add comment for arch_parse_debug_rodata()
>> - Update kernel-parameters.txt as required
>>
>> After this patch, the "rodata=on" will be the default on arm64 platform
>> as well.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Huang Shijie <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>
>> ---
>> Add more descriptions for "noalias":
>> It is not a security feature yet.
> Why did you add that?
The following is the current status of "rodata=noalias" by checking the
kernel page table in my machine:
1) the kernel code keeps read-only in both the "vmalloc area" and
the "linear area".
2) But there is a read-only memory range which is read-only in
"vmalloc area", but its linear alias is read-write in the "linear area".
Maybe the "security" is not a proper word.
>
> How do you envisage 'noalias' becoming a security feature? The point
for the case 2) above, if its linear alias is also mapped as read-only,
can we think it is safe as the original "rodata=full"?
> of 'full' rodata was to harden the read-only regions in the vmalloc
> space against inadvertent modification via the writeable linear alias,
> so 'noalias' is less secure than rodata=full, and should be documented
> as such.
>> ---
>> .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 3 ++-
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/setup.h | 27 +++++++++++++++++--
>> 2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> index a22b7e621007..f5db01eecbd3 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> @@ -5901,7 +5901,8 @@
>> rodata= [KNL,EARLY]
>> on Mark read-only kernel memory as read-only (default).
>> off Leave read-only kernel memory writable for debugging.
>> - full Mark read-only kernel memory and aliases as read-only
>> + noalias Use more block mappings,may have better performance.
>> + But this is not a security feature.
>> [arm64]
What's about change it to:
diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
index a22b7e621007..3d4aef0d0811 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -5901,7 +5901,8 @@
rodata= [KNL,EARLY]
on Mark read-only kernel memory as read-only
(default).
off Leave read-only kernel memory writable for
debugging.
- full Mark read-only kernel memory and aliases as
read-only
+ noalias Use more block mappings,may have better performance.
+ It is less secure then "rodata=on".
[arm64]
>>
>> rockchip.usb_uart
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/setup.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/setup.h
>> index ba269a7a3201..0ef57d19fc2a 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/setup.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/setup.h
>> @@ -13,6 +13,29 @@
>> extern phys_addr_t __fdt_pointer __initdata;
>> extern u64 __cacheline_aligned boot_args[4];
>>
>> +/*
>> + * rodata=on (default)
>> + *
>> + * This applies read-only attributes to VM areas and to the linear
>> + * alias of the backing pages as well. This prevents code or read-
>> + * only data from being modified (inadvertently or intentionally),
>> + * via another mapping for the same memory page.
>> + *
>> + * But this might cause linear map region to be mapped down to base
>> + * pages, which may adversely affect performance in some cases.
>> + *
>> + * rodata=off
>> + *
>> + * This provides more block mappings and contiguous hints for linear
>> + * map region which would minimize TLB footprint. This also leaves
>> + * read-only kernel memory writable for debugging.
>> + *
>> + * rodata=noalias
>> + *
>> + * This provides more block mappings and contiguous hints for linear
>> + * map region which would minimize TLB footprint. This is not a
>> + * security feature yet.
> Better replace the last sentence with
>
> "This leaves the linear alias of read-only mappings in the vmalloc
> space writeable, making them susceptible to inadvertent modification
> by software."
No problem.
Thanks
Huang Shijie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-13 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-12 8:24 [PATCH v4 0/2] " Huang Shijie
2024-12-12 8:24 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] " Huang Shijie
2024-12-13 5:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/2 fix] " Huang Shijie
2024-12-13 7:30 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-12-13 8:22 ` Shijie Huang [this message]
2024-12-13 8:26 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-12-13 8:46 ` Shijie Huang
2024-12-17 7:17 ` [PATCH v4 1/2 fix-v2 ] " Huang Shijie
2025-06-27 15:44 ` Will Deacon
2025-06-30 1:40 ` Shijie Huang
2024-12-12 8:24 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64/Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_RODATA_FULL_DEFAULT_ENABLED Huang Shijie
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