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From: Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>
To: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Emil Renner Berthing <emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] Fix Allwinner D1 boot regression
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 09:41:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be1db8f5-af55-48a4-be7a-5e8a1a5e25c4@sifive.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK9=C2V7oL023=u6nodJs76k_0yHZ8PTJs=n1QFqDWCcCnG9kw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024-08-15 9:16 AM, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 7:41 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15 2024 at 08:32, Samuel Holland wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-15 8:16 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>> Yes. So the riscv timer is not working on this thing or it stops
>>>> somehow.
>>>
>>> That's correct. With the (firmware) devicetree that Emil is using, the OpenSBI
>>> firmware does not have a timer device, so it does not expose the (optional[1])
>>> SBI time extension, and sbi_set_timer() does nothing.
>>
>> Sigh. Does RISCV really have to repeat all mistakes which have been made
>> by x86, ARM and others before? It's known for decades that the kernel
>> relies on a working timer...
> 
> My apologies for the delay in finding a fix for this issue.
> 
> Almost all RISC-V platforms (except this one) have SBI Timer always
> available and Linux uses a better timer or Sstc extension whenever
> it is available.

So this is the immediate solution: add the CLINT to the firmware devicetree so
that the SBI time extension works, and Linux will boot without any code changes,
albeit with a higher-overhead clockevent device.

Additionally merging the sun4i timer patch[1] will allow the system to switch to
the better MMIO clocksource later in the boot process.

The reason the CLINT was not added to the devicetree already is that the T-HEAD
version of the CLINT includes an extension to drive SSIP/STIP from a second
S-mode visible set of registers. So it should really have twice as many entries
in its interrupts-extended property as the existing CLINT, and I never got
around to validating that this would work.

The long-term solution would be adding driver support for the T-HEAD CLINT
extensions, which provide an even better clockevent than the sun4i timer.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240312192519.1602493-1-samuel.holland@sifive.com/

> When Emil first reported this issue, I did try to help him root cause
> the issue but unfortunately I don't have this particular platform and
> PLIC on all other RISC-V platforms works fine.
> 
> I am also surprised that none of the Allwinner folks tried helping.

Allwinner D1 support was upstreamed by unpaid hobbyists with very little
first-party assistance.

>>> I wrote a patch (not submitted) to skip registering riscv_clock_event when the
>>> SBI time extension is unavailable, but this doesn't fully solve the issue
>>> either, because then we have no clockevent at all when
>>> check_unaligned_access_all_cpus() is called.
>>
>> check_unaligned_access_all_cpus() is irrelevant.
>>
>>> How early in the boot process are we "required" to have a functional clockevent?
>>> Do we need to refactor check_unaligned_access_all_cpus() so it works on systems
>>> where the only clockevent is provided by a platform device?
>>
>> Right after init/main::late_time_init() everything can depend on a
>> working timer and on jiffies increasing.
>>
>> I'm actually surprised that the boot process gets that far. That's just
>> by pure luck, really.

Thanks for clearing this up!

Regards,
Samuel


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-15 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-14 14:56 Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Chain to parent IRQ after handlers are ready" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Avoid explicit cpumask allocation on stack" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Improve locking safety by using irqsave/irqrestore" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Parse number of interrupts and contexts early in plic_probe()" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Cleanup PLIC contexts upon irqdomain creation failure" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Use riscv_get_intc_hwnode() to get parent fwnode" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Use devm_xyz() for managed allocation" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Use dev_xyz() in-place of pr_xyz()" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 14:56 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] Revert "irqchip/sifive-plic: Convert PLIC driver into a platform driver" Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-14 17:30 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] Fix Allwinner D1 boot regression Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-15 10:29   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-15 11:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-15 12:04       ` Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-15 12:14         ` Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-15 13:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-15 13:32             ` Samuel Holland
2024-08-15 14:11               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-15 14:16                 ` Anup Patel
2024-08-15 14:41                   ` Samuel Holland [this message]
2024-08-15 15:07                     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-15 15:59                       ` Samuel Holland
2024-08-15 17:51                         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-08-15 18:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-16  6:13                           ` Icenowy Zheng
2024-08-15 15:14                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-15 14:30               ` Anup Patel
2024-08-15 15:03                 ` Samuel Holland
2024-08-15 15:53                   ` Anup Patel
2024-08-16  6:09                 ` Icenowy Zheng
2024-08-15 13:35             ` Emil Renner Berthing
2024-08-15 17:51   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-08-15 18:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-15 23:04       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-08-16  6:15     ` Icenowy Zheng
2024-08-18 14:47 ` Palmer Dabbelt

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